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Offline jwc007

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2005, 08:05:43 PM »
You may not have used +P+, but someone in your P1's past probably did.  Else, the Slide was of defective manufacture, in which case your replacement Slide should set things right.  Such happenings are not the norm with P38/P1's.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2006, 04:07:11 AM »
Nice pistol and a nice pic!
A comment was made about shoot with accuracy at 50 yards.
I don't find that off base at all as I have found this to be true of my bone stock Star model BS in 9mm.
 
If I do my part this pistol has no trouble ringing a 12" X 11" steel plate at 40 yards sighting dead on with Blaser ammo. That's more than accurate for a combat pistol and I don't have to adjust my sight picture. I think I read somewhere that these(my Star) were sighted this way from the factory on purpose?

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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2006, 07:40:37 AM »
Actually, I've seen two WWII P-38 develop cracks in the slide.  So its not totally unheard of.  With those guns, it presents more of a problem, being serial-number matched.)

But I agree: the frame is the most likely suspect/culprit, if you're thinking about potential damage.

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2006, 08:01:24 AM »
So which Factory made those WWII P38's?  The best manufacture of P38's during WWII were either Walther or Mauser.  

Spreewerke made P38's were known to have problems and some were downright sabotauged as they were made by slave labor (Poles and Jews) who were not treated well by their Nazi handlers.  Spreewerke made WWII P38's should be used with caution, if at all!
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2006, 08:27:54 AM »
According to the guys on various Curio & Relics lists and forums, including some guys who are really experts with the P-38s, those stories about slave labor sabotague are just that -- stories.  

The guns were closely watched during production, all were inspected by Wermacht inspectors, and they were tested.

I don't know, personally, of any factories that used slave labor in gun production -- but I am not that well read in that subject and haven't found a way to chase that story down.

Lots of slave labor in other labor-intensive activities, though.  Food production, clothing, many other pits and pieces of the war machine.  

I would think that the German Army and industry would have been very wary of letting slave laborers near assembly lines where the workers could, through subtrefuge, get access to weapons a piece at a time -- or fabricate something even more concealable.  

And, I would think that the only way to really screw up a slide (to cause cracks, for example) would be to screw up the heat treatment.  I'm sure THAT process was closely watched.

That's not to say that some factories weren't better than others, etc., or that whole batches of guns couldn't have been screwed up due to bad heat treatment.  (You know the stories about the early 1903 Springfields.)

The P-1s, for there to have been so many in use in the US over the past 4-5 years, seem to be relatively trouble free.  I suspect the one mentioned above is an exception.