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Offline SDDLUP

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CZ - Strakonice -vs- Uhersky Brod?
« on: October 25, 2005, 07:39:21 PM »
All of my pre-B CZ-75's are CZ Strankonice and all CZ's currently being imported are from Uhersky Brod. Can anyone provide details as to what and why this happened? I'm just curious.

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Walt-Sherrill

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CZ - Strakonice -vs- Uhersky Brod?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 07:55:25 PM »
I don't think your CZs are Strakonice...  Strakonice never built a 75B.  (At least that's my understanding.)

Check the FAQ area for history and terminology.

Strakonice is NOW the company that exports the TT version of the CZs, while Uhersky Brod is the company that parents CZ-USA, etc.   (In that case, the first bought the rights to use the name, but has no real connection to the older Stakonice that built rifles and the old CZ-52.)

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CZ - Strakonice -vs- Uhersky Brod?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2005, 07:50:56 PM »
Walt,

I was under the impression that the CZ proof mark was from Strankonice and the CZUB proof was of course from Uhersky Brod, but I'm not sure where I got that from. What's the deal with the different proof marks anyway? Was the CZ proof mark done when everything was supposed to be from Brno as was stated in the history FAQ? I remember reading something somewhere about why CZUB could not use the older CZ proof mark...?

Thanks for your input Walt!


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CZ - Strakonice -vs- Uhersky Brod?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005, 04:04:19 AM »
I don't know about trademarks, etc.

Uhersky Brod is, with regard to the 75B line, the "original" CZ, and the only CZ that had anything to do with the CZ-75 line.

The following is from The Fjestad Blue Book, heavily excerpted and parts deleted:
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"Ceska Zrojovka Strakonice begain develoing many innnovative and revolutionary pistol design.  These modesl, including the CZ-24, CZ-27, and CZ-52 are certainly well-known throughout the world.  During the 1950's, CZ's facilities were conerted to making motorcyles and precision engineering products.  

Ceska Zrobjoyva, located in the town of Uhersky Brod, was founded in 1936, as a subsdisiayr of Ceska Zbrokjovka Strakonice, in a government decision deisnged to move firearms production farther away from the German border, and out of the reach of German bombers....

Shortly after wwII Ceska Zbrojovka Uhersky Brod resumed production of firearms fror the civilian marketplace... Up to this pointk the main pistol producer in Czechoslovakia was CZ Strakonice...  The CZ-52 pistol was the last model they produced.  Since the end of the 1950s, Ceska Zbrojovk Uhersky Brod has beocme the sole producer of poistols.

During 1964-66 the Czech government transferred the production of long guns from Zbrojovka Brno to Ceska Zbrojovka Uhersky Brod.

...During 1975, Ceska Zborjovha Uhersky Brod designed and began manufacture of the famouse CZ-75 poistol..."
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The "Original CZ," touted by ADCO, the company that imported the TT series was original in name only, and they apparently have rights to the name, but not to the tradition, or any meaningful history or experience in the gun making business.  (Sort of like the Packard Bell computers of the 90's -- a great name applied without history or tradition.)  

The guns they sell are Tanfoglio clones that have been modified slightly in the Czech Republic.   The Blue Books says that these are the "Strakonice"-made guns... but it appears they are mostly Italian-made guns with mods.  

ADCO seems to be in the process of shifting to Turkish-made clones, rather than Italian-made clones, so that will lead to a really interesting marketing proposition in the coming years.