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Offline cntrydawwwg

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2018, 08:54:42 PM »
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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 05:03:23 AM »
The gun was supposed to be unfired....
Anyhow, I realigned both indentations. It should be dead center now. I didn't have a brass punch, so I used a 308 FMJ bullet instead (flat base against the sight, and a cotton patch in between). It worked pretty well and didn't mark the sight.

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Punch set with brass and steel punches
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Offline Joe L

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 05:54:09 AM »
MUST is a little strong, since the .308 bullet worked fine.  I've used a casing and a rock.  But, yes, your list is helpful, given some money and interest.  For certain tasks, I've needed a torch and a big hammer and hearing protection.   That stuff would make the MUST list at times.   And patience.  :) :)
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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 01:48:43 PM »
For me, I use the rule of moving the rear sight in the direction you want the bullet to hit.
So in your case, tapping the rear sight to the left a bit will move your shots to center of the target.

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2018, 02:46:58 PM »
My PCR shot to the left out of the box, the opposite off the O.P.'S.  A few whacks with a punch and it's dead on now. You would think the would get it right at the factory.
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Offline jDeLaBay

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2018, 01:44:54 PM »
Maybe the original owner installed a different rear and put the stock one back on?

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2018, 03:09:17 PM »
Maybe the original owner installed a different rear and put the stock one back on?
^^This.  Clearly the previous owner installed different sights, then when he reinstalled the rear he did an absolutely awful job of it.  Couldn't even bother to align the sight with the obvious marks that came from the factory.

Seems a bit surprising that it was unfired if he was swapping sights, but whatever.

Offline Walt Sherrill

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2018, 04:40:45 PM »
I scanned through the responses, but didn't see a direct response to the question of how far to move the sight.

Understand that just because the sights are centered on the slide doesn't mean that the barrel is centered -- so some adjustment MIGHT be needed.

I'd leave the front sight where it is, if it's centered, and then use  Brownell's Sight Correction Calculator to figure out how far to move the rear sight.   As noted, you move the rear sight in the direction you want the point of impact to move to.  The BSCC does everything in inches -- from sight radius to distance to point of aim, to measuring how off you are.   You should be able to get it pretty close with the first try if you shoot from a rest. 

Use a big bag of rice or a bag of beans (inside another plastic bag), etc., and rest you hands on the bag and slowly squeeze off your shots. Hand cock the hammer if a hammer-fired gun.)   If you have a way to mark the sight's starting position -- maybe a pencil mark on both the sight and slide (or liquid paper), you can see how far you've moved the sight when you try moving it. 

Having a piece of hardwood or a brass punch and a light hammer will let you move the sight pretty easily.   

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2018, 09:10:23 PM »
My 75B Cold War rear sight looks just like yours but it shoots to point of aim.
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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2018, 01:34:40 PM »
It's better now. Still shoots slightly to the right, but I think it's good enough. It does shoot high though (and even higher with 124gr).
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Offline Walt Sherrill

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2018, 06:18:58 PM »
Quote from: kaveh
It's better now. Still shoots slightly to the right, but I think it's good enough. It does shoot high though (and even higher with 124gr).

Unless you've got really HOT 124 gr. rounds that are moving faster than the lighter rounds, that difference is likely due to something YOU are doing. 

Out to 20 yards or or so, you shouldn't see much difference -- and definitely NOT higher points of impact for 124 gr. rounds until the distance increases.  Then, the heavier rounds should be hitting lower as gravity's effect on bullets is the same, regardless of bullet weight.  The heavier bullets take longer to get there  and have dropped more when traveling the same distance.   You'll have a hard time seeing a measurable difference until you shoot at more distant targets.

(With revolvers, things are subtly different, as the way a revolver passes recoil to the shooter is different than with a semi-auto.  T he barrel rise due to the gun's pivoting action is NOT delayed with a revolver as it is with a semi-auto.  It will be easier to see higher points of impact from heavier bullets in a revolver than with a semi-auto.   (Remember that with a semi-auto, the bullet it typically out of the barrel before the slide has move more than maybe a 10th of an inch, and it's not until the slide has moved more to the rear that you start to see a lot of barrel rise.)

If you want to get really serious, when starting from empty, fire the first round of a new mag off target.  Why?  The gun won't lock up the same on the first shot  when you manually release the slide to chamber that first round as when the gun's action does the job after a round is fired.

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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2018, 08:20:27 AM »
On the first shot, a close approximation to Walt's recommendation (which always works) of shooting the first shot off target is to not use the slide release and instead pull the slide back manually yourself until it stops and then release it when chambering the first round. 
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Re: New CZ shooting right: How and how much adjust rear sight
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2018, 02:14:26 PM »
I had the same issue with my brand new cz. Used the supplied alen key to move the sight left a little and now I can consistently destroy the bulls eye. Not sure how they aim this at the factory but my sight definitely had the same issue.

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