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Offline Asylum9

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I'm I the only one
« on: March 09, 2018, 08:45:56 PM »
I'm I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the trigger?  Is everyone precision shooting at 100 yards?
Makes me wonder how many people are just reading and repeating. Yes the factory trigger is heavy and a little gritty at first but put a few hundred rounds through it, it smooths out. Unless you're doing competitions how good do you need a trigger to be on a gun that most people only use to shoot paper at 25 yards? Granted I put a spring in it but that's about it and only because I got it free. For a home defense situation I can't imagine why you would want a super light trigger.
I don't mean to rant but I believe a lot of people are complaining over something that was specifically designed that way and just because they don't like it, it's obviously a poor design.
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Offline 3guneric

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 09:09:37 PM »
FWIW:  I have had the opportunity to interact with some of the top competition shooters and when asked what one element is key they all answer the same - trigger.  A lot of people are also now use to the Timmney-Geissle triggers on their AR's and they have come to expect the same in other guns.

I went through lots of hoops to "enhance" my Scorpion trigger pull and the folks at HBI were great!  I do want to be able to push the range of my guns to their max and a trigger is critical to that.

You do have a point though and if it works for you out of the box - that's a good thing.

Offline Asylum9

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 09:53:02 PM »
By all means I respect people's opinion, there choice to change what they want or see fit and it's what drives our sport forward. I fully support them.
Btw my comment wasn't made towards anyone specific. Like you said competition and I just get annoyed when people perpetuate an opinion made by someone else when they themselves haven't shot a triggers value in ammo.
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Offline 007_Bond

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 10:44:07 PM »
I find the trigger heavy, yes. I would like it lighter, even for self/home defense situations. I don?t know what mine weighs in at but it?s definitely.
I don?t know what weight I want but I?ll probably end up doing some kind of trigger job like the HBI or Shooter?s element.

Offline rcbif

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2018, 08:18:59 AM »
I think you'll find the vast majority of people prefer a sub 5 pound trigger. When you have most of factory guns with 3-5 pound triggers, and then get one with 8+ pounds, that trigger is always gonna stick out at you as being too heavy.

If all you ever shoot is double action revolvers - you just might find the Scorpions trigger acceptable.

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2018, 12:43:43 PM »
My particular carbine not only had the long and weighty pull to break, it had speed bumps the full length of travel. I could have endured this while I sent 100's of rounds down the pipe, but...WHY?

I know repeated cycling wear would eventually smooth the squeeze. I also know that sighting in a new optic (as well as the BUIS) would remain an exercise in frustration until then. I ruled out the patience option.

After removing the FCG, the OEM grease and the mung stuck to it, re-lubing the assembly and bolt, installing a sub $10 HBI spring kit I was curious about the effect on the action.  A trip to the range revealed an acceptably smooth action. I think I'm stopping here...for a while anyway. Even the break seems crisper.

Dialing in the sights is actually possible now that I'm not traversing a whoop'de'do infested mx track to the point of trigger break. My aim is true and consistently reliable with this one simple change.
Although I once owned a couple, I don't really have a SIGnature.

Offline SouthernScorp

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2018, 05:33:56 PM »
The main problem is its just Heavy....and long. A double action handgun pull is about 8lbs the evo is 10 something. A few minutes can get you around 4.5lbs but you still got that 5/8 long pull with no discernible wall to let you estimate the pull break. Its just pullllllll then bang
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Offline Laughing Snake

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 11:11:42 AM »
I thought I was the only one who was okay with the stock trigger. I also thought I was holding the gun wrong because the safety doesn't rub my knuckle.

The heavy trigger on the Scorpion has been a good warm up for the trigger finger.

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Re: I'm I the only one
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2018, 11:46:30 AM »
50 years of shooting has taught me that i do much better with a good trigger and good sights (or optic).