Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?

[mecenas]

You are absolutely right, Cntrydawwwg. There is just a surprising lack of understanding how and why the firing pin block works. Some even complain that once you release the hammer and immediately remove trigger finger from the trigger, the hammer will not go back to the full down position but will stay at the "half cock" - the same position that is accomplished simply by using a decocker. Accidental discharges happen by accident. That is why the firing pin block and the decocker.
Doing short cuts - like using your thumb instead of decocker defeats the purpose and asks for trouble
I will repeat it over and over and over - if you decide on carrying the gun with a hammer down - do not buy a safety version. That is truly for all those who can comfortably carry the gun cocked and locked - condition 1. Otherwise, getting a safety version makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[tdogg]

loaded, hammer fully down. 

I dont see why the decocker models even exist If theyre only going to lower the hammer to half cock.  theres a firing pin block...

And I don't see why anyone would carry a safety model hammer down instead of cocked and locked?  If you are going to carry hammer down, then get a decocker so you can lower the hammer with ease safely!?

I'm not sure where this distaste for decockers originates but to each their own.  I prefer the decocker for the ease of use and safety.  But then if I carry it is condition 3 so I must be an idiot.  Once again to each their own.  [emoji6]

Cheers,
Toby

[Old-Duckman]

I used to use the thumb method of lowering the hammer but now use the thumb and index finger (of my left hand, I'm right handed) to hold the hammer as I pull the trigger and (I have heard the term used) "walk" the hammer down.

Thank God I still have the manual dexterity to do so without any fear of an unintentional discharge...Well at least for now !

[charlestheforth]

loaded, hammer fully down. 

I dont see why the decocker models even exist If theyre only going to lower the hammer to half cock.  theres a firing pin block...

And I don't see why anyone would carry a safety model hammer down instead of cocked and locked?  If you are going to carry hammer down, then get a decocker so you can lower the hammer with ease safely!?

I'm not sure where this distaste for decockers originates but to each their own.  I prefer the decocker for the ease of use and safety.  But then if I carry it is condition 3 so I must be an idiot.  Once again to each their own.  [emoji6]

Cheers,
Toby

If the decocker lowered the hammer down fully i would love it with the same intensity that everyone else does.  But I want deep concealment (hammer fully down gives me peace of mind that it wont snag on anything) and a LONG double action first shot. 

I actually had an idea a while back but never acted on it because i dont feel nervous thumbing down my hammer.   You could make a little foam triangle that you stick in between the hammer and the firing pin channel.  then you just thumb the hammer down to the foam, release the trigger, then pull the foam out and the hammer will either be on half cock, or all the way down depending on the width of the triangle.    I think this could be useful for people who are scared to drop the hammer on a live round.  just put it on your keychain and carry your decocker in your pocket.

[Obiwan]

For those not comfortable lowering the hammer with thumb-only, or using the pinch method, try my method. What I do is this:

1) RAMI is loaded up, slide racked, and ends up cocked.
2) Insert the middle-bone of your left thumb (or joint, or thumb, whatever is more comfortable for you) between hammer and slide (so that it contacts the hammer) . This prevents the hammer from falling forward, and could be considered a second firing pin block.
3) Press and immediately release the trigger. The hammer moves out of the sear engagement and now rests on your thumb bone (after having moved just a tiny bit). The firing pin block was only deactivated during that split second you pressed the trigger. Now that the trigger is released again, the gun's firing pin block is active again.
4) Now remove the thumb upwards to let the hammer slide into the half-cock position.

People always tell my that this is a lame method, and I should practice using the thumb-on-hammer method instead. My response is that I believe this my method is safer since the hammer is actually blocked by the thumb, and there is no way for the hammer to slip off the thumb. This method works better for me since it's fast, safe and fool^H^H^H^Hslip-proof, which is important for situations where you might be under stress or tired or for some other reason have not the proper focus for hammer-on-thumb control.

The draw-back is that you have to use both hands, whereas with practice, the hammer-on-thumb decocking could be done one-handed.

Note that this method (as least in my opinion) works very well on the RAMI due to the hammer and slide width and contours. It doesn't work quite as comfortable on 75's, mainly due to the slimmer hammer, but can still be done.

[cntrydawwwg]

Obiwan, I?ve heard of your method, and think it?s a great one. I?m used to revolvers so have no issue thumbing the hammer. BUT, I always keep in mind that I?m dealing with a ring hammer and not a spur hammer.

   That?s the biggest thing people forget about when coming from revolvers, that spur hammer makes it so nice and easy to thumb down. The ring hammer is quite a bit smaller, and in a high stress situation, your method would be a smart choice when the adrenaline is pumping.

   

[Boyshkin]

I am also a revolver guy, I really don't see any advantage of  the decocker version  of this gun. Maybe if it dropped the hammer all the way, but to only go to half cock, I'll stick with the less complicated, smoother action, more carrying option, safety model.

[lewmed]

 I'm also a revolver guy been shooting them for 50 years. I own both models of the Rami and my newer BD model has the better D/A and S/A trigger. When shooting my revolvers I'm D/A only that must be why I adapted so easy to CZ pistols.  I even replaced my old trusty 1911 with a CZ 97 BD and my Highpower with a SPO1.  Life is good see ya at the range!

[ohiodff]

My 75 B matte stainless allows safety on in half cocked position as well as full cocked.

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Is it Cajunized?  David told me that getting (forget which) package would allow the safety to engage at 1/2 cock but not function - in plain english, giving a false sense of security.  I have a 75B High Polish that the safety will not engage in 1/2 cock position but that hasn't been sent in to CGW yet.

[Pcherry1973]

My 75 B matte stainless allows safety on in half cocked position as well as full cocked.

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Is it Cajunized?  David told me that getting (forget which) package would allow the safety to engage at 1/2 cock but not function - in plain english, giving a false sense of security.  I have a 75B High Polish that the safety will not engage in 1/2 cock position but that hasn't been sent in to CGW yet.

No. It's not cajunized. It's completely stock. It definitely engages and it definitely works.

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[cntrydawwwg]

And if you read your owners manual, it definitely says to only use the safety at full cock.[emoji6]