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Offline SoCal

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Re: CZ 75 Reloading info
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2019, 04:24:02 PM »
FYI Lee makes a taper crimp die and a FACTORY crimp die (also a taper crimp die).  The difference is the "Lee 9MM LUGER Carbide Factory Crimp Die sizes the cartridge while being crimped". 

https://leeprecision.com/taper-crimp-die-9mm.html

https://leeprecision.com/carbide-factory-crimp-die-9mm.html
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Re: CZ 75 Reloading info
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2019, 10:45:03 AM »
Thanks for all the information. I had purchased the Lee 9MM LUGER Carbide Factory Crimp Die which sizes the cartridge while being crimped. With all the valuable information I have received from this site I have now git to the stage where I have finally assembled 6 dummy rounds which I have run through the magazine, inserted into the barrel and ejected them several times so I am confident that they will chamber.
So now the next step is to load my test ammunition and get to the range to shoot through my chrono (not at it😊). I must admit that all the valuable information you guys have shared has made this entire process a far easier one for me. It has removed lots of guess work as the accuracy in which all the posts are written makes it very easy to follow.

I have a far better understanding of the different stages

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Re: CZ 75 Reloading info
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2019, 08:30:37 AM »
I have finally assembled 6 dummy rounds...


Geez, that took forever !  O0 O0


...which I have run through the magazine, inserted into the barrel and ejected them several times so I am confident that they will chamber.


You really do want to remove the barrel and make sure that they slide in and out of the chamber under their own weight. (No fair shaking the barrel.) Then measure the crimp dia. It should work out to be in the range of 0.378 to 0.376".

We are double and triple checking the Taper Crimp set up. Once we are dead sure that's right, then any future failure to chamber must be an OAL or brass issue. That's SO very important as you try different bullet weights, shapes and brands.

When you get your incremental test "ladders" loaded, you won't really need a chrono as long as you're in the published load ranges. You're loading for target practice so you're looking for ultimate accuracy, not a certain PF. Set the heel of the pistol (base plate of the mag) and your 2 hands on a sand bag or other steady rest (as shown in the vid below). Slow fire at new targets for each load.

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Later you can compare the targets and measure the groups. The smallest groups are the loads your gun likes with that bullet.

If you'll use the exact same target distance (suggest 30 to 45 feet) on all subsequent tests, then you'll be able to compare powders and bullets in your future loads to see if there was any improvement. Obviously, you'll be improving as you shoot more, and you'll want loads that are likewise getting better and better.


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Re: CZ 75 Reloading info
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2019, 01:40:45 PM »
Yup it did take some time to get 6 dummy rounds but at the moment I don’t have much time at my disposal😊
I have taken into account everything you have mentioned, and I will work though it like a recipe. I did measure the taper crimp and had to adjust the die incrementally until I got the size and the bullets fell into the barrel and fell out easily. I work in metric, so I converted the sizes you gave me, and all worked out in the end.

I will try to find other bullets to test to see which ones get the best accuracy. At the moment here in SA there seems to be a shortage of everything. I must admit that this site is just the best ;) ;)