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Offline puddintame

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rear sight set screw problem
« on: February 02, 2020, 06:44:55 PM »
want to change out the sight on my phantom. problem is the set screw wont budge. on top of that, the allen wrench snapped off inside of it. can I still hammer this out if I put the slide in a vice? my wheeler sight pusher wont do it. I tried drilling it out with titanium bits but they both broke. any other tips would be helpful

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Re: rear sight set screw problem
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2020, 04:47:11 AM »
If you have access to a drill press that would best bes to start with. I would use a conical shaped dremel  grinding bit and grind a divot in the center of the set screw to keep things centered then slowly drill the set screw out.
OR if you are not planning on saving the old sight you can use small cut off wheel and cut a slot across the center of the set screw and remove it with a flat blade screwdriver.
The sight COULD be hammered out but the set screw will leave a gouge in the slide.

Offline puddintame

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Re: rear sight set screw problem
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2020, 06:12:56 PM »
well. I managed to get the sight out. had to use what I had which was a vice, brass punch and a hammer. roughed the sight up but the slide came out with a tiny little scratch which is fine. oddly enough the mepro I installed on it doesn't even have a set screw. I got it centered after putting some blue locktight under it. hope it stays centered while shooting it or its back to square one. thanks for the help fellas 8)

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Re: rear sight set screw problem
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2020, 07:41:03 PM »
If you have access to a drill press that would best bes to start with. I would use a conical shaped dremel  grinding bit and grind a divot in the center of the set screw to keep things centered then slowly drill the set screw out.
OR if you are not planning on saving the old sight you can use small cut off wheel and cut a slot across the center of the set screw and remove it with a flat blade screwdriver.
The sight COULD be hammered out but the set screw will leave a gouge in the slide.

I think your advice was excellent. 
« Last Edit: February 04, 2020, 10:40:34 AM by Rmach »

Offline M1A4ME

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Re: rear sight set screw problem
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2020, 06:44:41 AM »
When the allen wrench broke you were twisting in counter clockwise trying to remove the screw.  So the corners were pretty well jammed up in the corners of the set screw.

If you can drill the "right" sized hole, doesn't have to be real deep, in the broken piece of allen wrench then you can use a small torx head bit to loosen the jammed up piece of allen wrench by turning it clockwise.  Just a tiny amount will break up the jammed up corners that are holding it in place in the set screw.

I've not (yet) broken an allen wrench off in a set screw.  One piece of advice I've seen folks give here is to use a soldering iron to heat up that set screw to loosen any Loctite that may be on it.  The soldering iron just heats up a small amount of metal and won't discolor the sight or the slide like other methods of heating might.

If that rear sight was to work loose there's another thing you can do for it.  Finish removing it from the slide, place the slide, bottom down on a bench or hard piece of wood.  Grab a center punch and hammer and lightly dimple the area of the sight cut - under the sight.  The spot that the rear sight will cover when in the right place in the slide.  The high spots created by the impact of the center punch will help force the rear sight up against the slide even tighter.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?