Muti-discipline, or multi-use recipes for CZ 9mm pistols

[CzechnoWizard]

I take no umberage with anyone relating their specific findings. I only take offense at generalizations that run counter to observed data.  I (incorrectly?) Read your comments to suggest that flat points and cz feed ramps are incompatible. I find them perfectly compatible.  As to the generalizations about plating vs jackets, lee fcd, and 147 grain projectiles, I would suggest there's enough contradictory experience out there to warrant staying away from making any broad generalized conclusions.  Your experiences are just as valid as mine and we should conclude that more specific individual consideration is necessary rather than confuse or potentislly misinform an innocent questioner. Glass raised to wobbly, no offense taken here and hopefully none taken at your end of the wire either.

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[CzechnoWizard]

One small point- plated bullets are normally totally enclosed and free of exposed lead.  Jacketed round nose are normally open at the back, exposing lead to the hot gases and contributing to a dirty gun and leaded breathing air. My "bullet feeder" has been helping me since he was 3 and I feel better having him avoid handling lead as much as possible. Plated bullets trump jacketed in that sense, for my particular situation.

JHP, as advocated in this thread, do often have an enclosed back, but 1) the jackets are so thick they usually become semi-lethal ricochet razors of doom after they hit steel. I've been hit with lead plenty often but the greatest damage and bleeding has always come from the ultra sharp frags of jacket that boomerang back at you.  2) jhp are hell on bowling pins and even on the rubber or textile sheets often used in indoor backstops or traps. Bring jhp to a pin shoot on my range and you are going to owe me some new pins and a few frosty beverages. [emoji33]

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[Wobbly]

Time for a flashback !

Not to belabor the point, but here's the first bullet someone recommended that I purchase. This is the exact bullet that started the whole "bullet OAL" and "taper crimp" discussions on this board. I was just starting out with reloading for CZ's and didn't know anything.

This is the exact bullet that lead to all the documentation written in the Stickies about this subject. So it's not that I know any more than anyone else, it's simply that I may have suffered more than anyone else to discover how not to do it, and then wrote down some answers to try and teach others what I had learned through much stumbling, fumbling and pain.

Here's the original photo taken in March of 2009....



• The Zero 124gr FPRN on the left seats in the CZ P01 chamber at an exciting Max OAL of 0.980". Yes, less than 1.000". You simply won't find that OAL published in any reloading manual !!

• The Berry 124gr RN that took its place actually had a Max OAL of something longer than 1.180", which is longer than will actually fit into the 9mm magazine. That's when I fell in love with Berry and started championing their full line.


9700 hopefully helpful posts so far. It's not that I know so much, I'm actually rather slow to learn anything, which makes learning really difficult. (The forum reloading expert is actually Reloader Fred's job title !  ) No, it's only that I dedicate so much time trying to keep novices from making the same simple mistakes that I did. So again, don't mistake "word count" for smarts.


Hope this helps.