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Offline DW1911TCP9MM

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CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker down so hard to decock ? is it normal or it is just a matter of getting it worked few hundred times & getting oiled ?

PS: I am new to CZ handguns... What I have looks like old new stock PCR that was sitting somewhere collecting dust and getting factory lube thick... I did not yet disassemble/clean/oil it... just curious

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2020, 08:38:07 PM »
Clean, lube, shoot and then you’ll know if you have an issue. Decocking should be pretty smooth with little effort
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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 08:40:18 PM »
Yep, they are sometimes a little stiff when new.  It will get a little better over time.

What year model is it?  It will be stamped on the side of the slide.

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2020, 06:34:56 AM »
CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker down so hard to decock ? is it normal or it is just a matter of getting it worked few hundred times & getting oiled ?

PS: I am new to CZ handguns... What I have looks like old new stock PCR that was sitting somewhere collecting dust and getting factory lube thick... I did not yet disassemble/clean/oil it... just curious
Yes they are stiff and that is normal. Yes it may loosen up over time but maybe not as much as you would think. Mine has north of 15,000 rounds fired and it's still about like it was when new. You need to keep in mind you're not going to be decocking the gun on a constant basis. You may use the lever a couple times in a range session and maybe after cleaning and reloading it if you intend to carry it.
I generally shoot mine empty at the range and maybe decock it one time before going in the range bag. Clean and reload it and decock then. I bet in 10 years an all those rounds I haven't hit the decocker 250 times.

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2020, 08:32:22 AM »
hmmm... I hit youtube and I see totally effortless decocking... for example this clip:  https://youtu.be/SjGgttzQNzw?t=250  -- starting @ 4:10 (mm:ss) ... this looks couple of magnitudes less stiff (or this dude has a thumb finger that is a magnitude stronger than mine)

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2020, 09:49:16 AM »
CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker down so hard to decock ? is it normal or it is just a matter of getting it worked few hundred times & getting oiled ?

PS: I am new to CZ handguns... What I have looks like old new stock PCR that was sitting somewhere collecting dust and getting factory lube thick... I did not yet disassemble/clean/oil it... just curious
Yes they are stiff and that is normal. Yes it may loosen up over time but maybe not as much as you would think. Mine has north of 15,000 rounds fired and it's still about like it was when new. You need to keep in mind you're not going to be decocking the gun on a constant basis. You may use the lever a couple times in a range session and maybe after cleaning and reloading it if you intend to carry it.
I generally shoot mine empty at the range and maybe decock it one time before going in the range bag. Clean and reload it and decock then. I bet in 10 years an all those rounds I haven't hit the decocker 250 times.
when I had my P-01, I considered it a potential defensive handgun rather than just a range toy.  Therefore at the range I did 2-3 shot drills, decocking after each to learn the transition between DA/SA.  Which means that for each box (50) of ammo I would be cycling the decocker about 20 times to reset for the next string.

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2020, 11:12:33 AM »
CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker down so hard to decock ? is it normal or it is just a matter of getting it worked few hundred times & getting oiled ?

PS: I am new to CZ handguns... What I have looks like old new stock PCR that was sitting somewhere collecting dust and getting factory lube thick... I did not yet disassemble/clean/oil it... just curious
Yes they are stiff and that is normal. Yes it may loosen up over time but maybe not as much as you would think. Mine has north of 15,000 rounds fired and it's still about like it was when new. You need to keep in mind you're not going to be decocking the gun on a constant basis. You may use the lever a couple times in a range session and maybe after cleaning and reloading it if you intend to carry it.
I generally shoot mine empty at the range and maybe decock it one time before going in the range bag. Clean and reload it and decock then. I bet in 10 years an all those rounds I haven't hit the decocker 250 times.
when I had my P-01, I considered it a potential defensive handgun rather than just a range toy.  Therefore at the range I did 2-3 shot drills, decocking after each to learn the transition between DA/SA.  Which means that for each box (50) of ammo I would be cycling the decocker about 20 times to reset for the next string.

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My PCR has been carried dailey for over 10 years. I can see where you would use the decocker when doing those drills but I just don't use it that way.
hmmm... I hit youtube and I see totally effortless decocking... for example this clip:  https://youtu.be/SjGgttzQNzw?t=250  -- starting @ 4:10 (mm:ss) ... this looks couple of magnitudes less stiff (or this dude has a thumb finger that is a magnitude stronger than mine)

So you can tell how much pressure this guy is applying from the video??? I don't think so.I watched it 3 times and there's just no way to know how loose or stiff his lever is.If you still think there's an issue with your gun call CZ-USA and see what they say.

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2020, 11:22:12 AM »
Yes....it is normal and Yes.....some have stronger hands than others. I've never found them to be a problem.

The only thing that has smoothed and lightened my decockers is an action job or tigger job or spring kit. This makes them very nice!!! I wasn't trying to do this to the decocker but it happens to be a side effect after doing these. Once you understand how the decocker functions, you will know why.

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Re: CZ 75 D PCR - why I need to push decocker so hard to decock ?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2020, 09:48:22 AM »
The decocker on my PCR went from what I considered to be a bit rough and stiff to something that requires less pressure to activate than the actual trigger pull itself.  I do not own a trigger gauge so I can only estimate that my DA trigger pull is now around 8 lbs based upon my experience with known trigger values in some of my other firearms.  This is after installing the CGW spring kit, and completely cleaning everything and relubing.  No polishing or other type of work.  So I estimate the thumb pressure necessary to fully activate the decocker on my firearm to be at around 5 lbs.  There is no way to accurately measure this but that is simply what I feel and experience.