CZ P-10C and Federal BPLE +p+

[cwdotson]

Thoughts on these two together...NOT as a regular diet but maybe a couple of magazines and then just in carry magazines?

[Wobbly]

Very interesting.

First of all, it's my understanding that +P+ is not a SAAMI sanctioned load. That means no one has defined it. We all know what we hope it means, but that's not always the case.

• If +P means higher pressure, I sure hope +P+ means higher velocity without yet again higher pressure. I'm not sure most guns could take much more chamber pressure than +P.

• In standard "classic" loading we consider chamber pressure and bullet velocity to be linked 1:1. This is why and how a chrono is useful in reloading. But that doesn't always hold true. Somewhere north of Max Load, those 2 features separate and become independent. Velocity levels off and goes asymptotic. On the other hand... Pressure continues to climb like a rocket. This is one reason guns blow-up.

But pros, like Federal, can use proprietary blended powders and other methods not available to reloaders because they have millions of research dollars to spend looking and testing.


So the bottom line is I'm not sure +P+ buys you anything. It's undefined. You could be spending $1.50 per round, and it could be standard ammo in drag. Federal could be laughing all the way to the bank ! Or it could be 1300 fps at standard chamber pressures. The only way to know is to read the box or web page, and look at the specs.

If it was a no-name ammo company on YouTube, I'd write it off as another flash in the pan rip-off. But Federal is one of, if not the, top ammo maker. Hard to say.

 

[Ron M.]

Should be fine in limited use. Bullet performance is rather poor, it fragments or fails to expand from my experience, I see consistent fragmentation from a carbine. My test media are trapped feral hogs, when it expands and fragments I usually find a larger part of the bullet that weighs maybe 80gr. Penetration is OK when it expands and fragments, but when it fails it sails through a good size sow or boar. All of my shots on trapped hogs were from a Beretta 92 Centurion or M9A1. The 5 inch barrel of the M9A1 seems a bit better as far as when the bullet works.

After a lot of hogs, I've found 124gr or 147gr Federal HST Tactical standard velocity, 147gr Speer Gold Dots, and 147gr Winchester Ranger T seem to be the better choices. From my carbines Black Hills 115gr+P  Barnes Expander and Federal HST 124gr+P work very well as long as I shoot past 15 yards. Much closer and the bullets over expand and under penetrate.

These are all the LE version. Stay away from the G2 Gold Dots, the don't work well form anything shorter than a 4.5 to 5 inch barrel.