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Offline 357MAGNOLE

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Need suggestions for mid range AR Upper Build
« on: September 01, 2020, 08:43:38 AM »
Hey everyone.

I am attempting to round out my purpose built collection.

Currently my Home Defense weapon of choice is a suppressed SBR'd CZ Scorpion. Fits as my 10-50 yard weapon of choice.

I'm working on a SBR'd CZ Bren 2 MS in 7.62x39 with the 9" barrel. I ordered a Rugged Razor 7.62 for it yesterday. I plan on this being my SHTF urbanish combat rifle (but really just a fun range toy to eat 7.62x39 ammo) I see this build fitting the 50-200 yard range.

Now is where I could use some suggestions. I have a stock pile of 5.56 laying around and a complete lower with a nice Wilson Combat 2 stage trigger. I'd like to build a 200-400 yard precision capable build. Plan is to have the choice of running the suppressor on the front with a 5.56 Rugged muzzle brake. But I dont really know where to start in terms of barrel length and what not. I'd really like some advice from people that are experienced. So far I am leaning towards the BCM MK 12 SPR.
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Ron M.

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Re: Need suggestions for mid range AR Upper Build
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2020, 07:19:57 PM »
I suggest an A4 style rifle, the 20 inch barrel will give you better velocity for 200 yard or greater shots. Mine is built with an FN upper, it will group under an inch at 100 yards with good ammo. A 1:7 twist is optimum for 60gr and heavier bullets. My best long range loads use the 77gr Sierra Match King or 70gr Barnes TSX.

Offline M1A4ME

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Re: Need suggestions for mid range AR Upper Build
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2020, 07:23:12 AM »
Gonna hang a suppressor off the end sometimes?  Seems a shorter, thick barrel would be better than a skinny or long barrel to minimize POI changes between suppressed/unsuppressed.  I've read/been told hanging a bayonet off your rifle will change POI.  I figure a suppressor weighs more

Will you be shooting it fast/heavy?  Heating up the barrel bigtime?  If so then a good chrome lined barrel will outlast the stainless and nitrided barrels.  Or so they say on arfcom.  I read the FN CHF barrels are double chrome lined as well as being made out of type of steel that is more resistant to heat/warp/flex while hot.  They call it "machine gun steel" and supposedly use it in the machine gun barrels they make/sell to the US military.

Heavy/fast use means the barrel heat will radiate out to the handguards/free float tube as well.  I have no idea what would be cooler on your support hand, an aluminum ventilated free float tube or a GI type hand guard with the heat shields inside it.  Then again, maybe a vertical grip attached to the bottom of the handguard would work better than holding on to the handguard itself.

Overall length with a suppressor important?
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?