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Offline Steepandcheap

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P-01 vs -01 Omega
« on: December 20, 2020, 05:21:12 PM »
I've handled the P-01 Omega, but not the original - any preference for most folks between one decocker style vs the other? Feel like I'd have an easier time reaching the slide stop with the original model...

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2020, 08:25:09 AM »
I think you are on track - it is easier to hit the slide stop with the original - the Omega decocker is in the way a bit.  If you shoot different guns, you'll realize that slide stops come in all manner of places and sizes.  Some don't even use them because of this.  Some instructors, like Larry Vickers, teach the use of the support hand - after you inert the fresh magazine, you hit the slide release with the support hand thumb on your way back onto the target.  This is about as fast as the firing hand and your hand stays in position to fire. 

This can then become a 'universal' tech technique with all autoloaders if you are right handed and simplifies reloading - not dependent on the gun design. 


Offline christak

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 11:30:10 AM »
I have both... You are correct regarding the decocker etc., but I prefer the trigger shape and sights on the omega. Both are excellent handguns.

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 08:08:30 PM »
I bought a 75D for my middle daughter when she graduated college.  It's the same as the original P-01 but is the Israeli police issue version from what I understand.  It has what appears to be the same sear cage design as my 75B.  I have to admit, the trigger on this 75D is not very smooth or light.  In fact, I don't care for it at all.  It can be polished and tuned but the Omega version is quite a bit easier to service and work on.
I also don't care for the curved trigger.  She likes it but I like the Omega system better. 
The rest of the ergos are great and the gun really feels nice to hold and manipulate.  I do like the de-cocker too.
BUT, I like the triggers better in my P-series guns.  Something to consider. 
I'm sure this gun will smooth up in time.  The wear inside shows that it's hardly been fired.
Just my two cents.

Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2020, 05:38:03 AM »
The omega is simpler to work on and that's a plus for the novice and the person with little patience but the standard 75 series lockwork can be tuned to a much smoother DA and supremely crisp SA pull. I just put the CGW pro pack in a recently acquired 75B compact and it is awesome.

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2020, 09:44:54 AM »
SOME Omegas tune to an amazingly smooth DA and I find their SA OTB to be very good. it is true though that if you take time, the 75 lockwork can produce an amazingly smooth and light pull.  On some of mine I only use slightly lightened springs and polishing, and the result is amazing.  Ill have to try the CGW hammer some day. 

Also, the 75 series WITH SAFETY is really not all that much harder to work on than the Omega (IMHO).  What makes the 75 series hard is the decocker sear cage, which takes extra patience.  But IMHO it is more robust. 

The Omega was not designed to operate in the 75 series guns but was adapted to it later.  I don't think this is a problem, but we'll see over the long haul.  The 75 series action has been used a long time with good results.   


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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2020, 10:03:25 AM »
With some polishing during the install the CGW pro pack produces an outstanding DA pull and crisp creep free SA and the reach reduction and pre travel/overtravel adjustable 85 trigger coupled with the short reset parts make the CZ on par with guns costing a whole lot more. 

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2020, 12:14:26 PM »
With some polishing during the install the CGW pro pack produces an outstanding DA pull and crisp creep free SA and the reach reduction and pre travel/overtravel adjustable 85 trigger coupled with the short reset parts make the CZ on par with guns costing a whole lot more.

That is with the top of the line decocker hammer - not the competition - correct?

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2020, 12:58:24 PM »
With some polishing during the install the CGW pro pack produces an outstanding DA pull and crisp creep free SA and the reach reduction and pre travel/overtravel adjustable 85 trigger coupled with the short reset parts make the CZ on par with guns costing a whole lot more.

That is with the top of the line decocker hammer - not the competition - correct?
In the drop down menu you can configure your kit with either the race hammer or the ring hammer which ever you prefer. I like the ring hammer myself.

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2020, 04:09:25 PM »
Thanks.  CGW has definitely made CZ ownership a better experience!  (Although camming does not bug me as much as other folks).

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2020, 05:59:33 PM »
The omega is simpler to work on and that's a plus for the novice and the person with little patience but the standard 75 series lockwork can be tuned to a much smoother DA and supremely crisp SA pull. I just put the CGW pro pack in a recently acquired 75B compact and it is awesome.
I had the sear cage out of my 75B once to do a little polishing.  One of these days, I need to upgrade the action but I don't shoot it now so it's relegated to the safe.  I'll certainly keep it until I die.  It's a really sharp looking gun and handles beautifully.  I lucked into one of the OD Green ones a few years back.
I have a Shadow Systems MR920 Combat, black and TiN, wrapped and under the tree.  I'm pretty stoked.  I feel like I'm cheating on my CZ family but felt the need to drop some $ on a new toy for me before I write a big check to my daughter's student loans!

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2020, 11:22:03 PM »
Love my P01 Omega but it’s not as slick as the my PCR that CGW did the Pro Package on and as far as the decocker goes I prefer the PCR.

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2020, 05:08:25 AM »
Love my P01 Omega but it’s not as slick as the my PCR that CGW did the Pro Package on and as far as the decocker goes I prefer the PCR.
I've had My PCR for many years and many thousands of rounds but the thing is the decocker sear cage is a challenge for some to work on. I've done several now so they are not too bad. like anything experience leads to confidence and things just get easier.

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Re: P-01 vs -01 Omega
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2020, 07:52:28 AM »
Love my P01 Omega but it’s not as slick as the my PCR that CGW did the Pro Package on and as far as the decocker goes I prefer the PCR.
I've had My PCR for many years and many thousands of rounds but the thing is the decocker sear cage is a challenge for some to work on. I've done several now so they are not too bad. like anything experience leads to confidence and things just get easier.

A PCR with Pro Package DONE by CGW would indeed be great!  While I do think the decocker cage is a tough nut, I plan to overcome this in the near future. 

The other thing, and I don't want to make more of it than should be, the P01 Std is the one that 'passed the test' laid out by a police agency in the Czech Republic - and very high standards indeed.  The Omega did not pass this, but I am sure that it will withstand heavy use and is easier to service.  I do find the Omega deccocker nicely positioned for a high thumbs fwd grip.