Adult age discrimination violates 2nd Amendment …

[Skookum]

for now:


https://youtu.be/S9xWD0wk4r4

CA will appeal for an en banc review by the 9th Circus, which will reinstate the ban on young adults owning semi-auto centerfire rifles.

[armoredman]

Yes. Now waiting for the SCOTUS ruling...very soon...

[Skookum]

I'm guessing striking down Roe v Wade will function as at least somewhat of a lightning rod for striking down may-issue carry permitting.  I find it interesting that in the wake of the Uvalde massacre the most popular "fix," other than a ban, is to discriminate against sub-21 adults.  The only civil right not under attack by the subversives is the ban on quartering troops, although I expect we'll soon be forced to quarter illegal invaders.

[armoredman]

We won't go into RvW on this website, but I will say the rulings released by The Court are heartening, with the exception of the immigration one. The West Virginia one strikes a deep body blow to the Chevron Deference, where three letter agencies might start reeling back in, knowing that they are effectively making law where no authority for such exists. However, that will require further legal shakeups.

[bonj]

IMOO, 18 yr olds can't buy beer for a reason, the same should apply to semi-automatic weapons.

[studenygreg]

IMOO, 18 yr olds can't buy beer for a reason, the same should apply to semi-automatic weapons.

But that doesn't stop 18 years old from buying or drinking beer.

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[Grendel]

IMOO, 18 yr olds can't buy beer for a reason, the same should apply to semi-automatic weapons.

But that doesn't stop 18 years old from buying or drinking beer.

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Arguing that because a law is flouted and is thus ineffectual, therefore it should be repealed, is nonsense. Rather, it is a reason to more rigorously enforce that law.

In any case, the drinking of beer and the right to buy beer are nowhere enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

If the Federal Government wish to legislatively apply an age limit to long arms as they do with handguns, then they should do so, and it should be subject to the same constitutional scrutiny, up to and including  the SCOTUS.

Personally, I believe that the words 'shall not be infringed' mean exactly what they say, but do they apply to minors? People over 18 but under 21? At the moment the SCOTUS seems to think, at least with regard to handguns, they do not. Time will tell.

[randy.shopher]

It seems to be ok for 18 year olds to carry weapons to protect us.

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[Tinker Black]

It seems to be ok for 18 year olds to carry weapons to protect us.

Whenever I see this argument, I think, "Do you have any idea how strictly regulated the carry & use of firearms is on a military base?"

18 year-olds in the military are issued guns to use in the operation of their MOS. They don't get to keep & carry them under their own volition. Guns are checked in & out from an armory. Every hour a gun is checked out, and every round of ammo issued is accounted for. Do you want similar standards applied to private gun ownership for people age 18-20?

[Smitty79]

It seems to be ok for 18 year olds to carry weapons to protect us.

Whenever I see this argument, I think, "Do you have any idea how strictly regulated the carry & use of firearms is on a military base?"

18 year-olds in the military are issued guns to use in the operation of their MOS. They don't get to keep & carry them under their own volition. Guns are checked in & out from an armory. Every hour a gun is checked out, and every round of ammo issued is accounted for. Do you want similar standards applied to private gun ownership for people age 18-20?

I'm a retired naval officer.    A lot of 18 year olds are pretty sketchy and we had a better than average group of people.    I am OK with restricting under 21 year olds' ability to purchase semiautomatic firearms.    I would like to have a more intense screening and training, that could get them approved for all legal firearms.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

It seems to be ok for 18 year olds to carry weapons to protect us.

Whenever I see this argument, I think, "Do you have any idea how strictly regulated the carry & use of firearms is on a military base?"

18 year-olds in the military are issued guns to use in the operation of their MOS. They don't get to keep & carry them under their own volition. Guns are checked in & out from an armory. Every hour a gun is checked out, and every round of ammo issued is accounted for. Do you want similar standards applied to private gun ownership for people age 18-20?

I'm a retired naval officer.    A lot of 18 year olds are pretty sketchy and we had a better than average group of people.    I am OK with restricting under 21 year olds' ability to purchase semiautomatic firearms.    I would like to have a more intense screening and training, that could get them approved for all legal firearms.

 Shall not be infringed means just that. Unalienable means just that. Restricting age won't stop these mentally challenged people and once bent on destruction they will carry it out in one form or another guns or not. The internet is rife with info on other means of destruction which are far worse than anything a gun can produce.
How about we address the reason why we are creating these monsters in the first place instead of trying to control them once they've been unleashed on society. The problems in play don't just start in the home they are perpetrated by the failed public school system as well. No one wants to do the hard work just the knee jerk feel good solutions that will never work and the left loves it when they can peel off some support from the right for their totalitarian agenda in the process. No crazy will be stopped by any of the recent legislation. Every criminal that wants a guns still has one and those who don't will get one easier than the law abiding citizen who follows the rules.

[Smitty79]

It seems to be ok for 18 year olds to carry weapons to protect us.

Whenever I see this argument, I think, "Do you have any idea how strictly regulated the carry & use of firearms is on a military base?"

18 year-olds in the military are issued guns to use in the operation of their MOS. They don't get to keep & carry them under their own volition. Guns are checked in & out from an armory. Every hour a gun is checked out, and every round of ammo issued is accounted for. Do you want similar standards applied to private gun ownership for people age 18-20?

I'm a retired naval officer.    A lot of 18 year olds are pretty sketchy and we had a better than average group of people.    I am OK with restricting under 21 year olds' ability to purchase semiautomatic firearms.    I would like to have a more intense screening and training, that could get them approved for all legal firearms.

 Shall not be infringed means just that. Unalienable means just that. Restricting age won't stop these mentally challenged people and once bent on destruction they will carry it out in one form or another guns or not. The internet is rife with info on other means of destruction which are far worse than anything a gun can produce.
How about we address the reason why we are creating these monsters in the first place instead of trying to control them once they've been unleashed on society. The problems in play don't just start in the home they are perpetrated by the failed public school system as well. No one wants to do the hard work just the knee jerk feel good solutions that will never work and the left loves it when they can peel off some support from the right for their totalitarian agenda in the process. No crazy will be stopped by any of the recent legislation. Every criminal that wants a guns still has one and those who don't will get one easier than the law abiding citizen who follows the rules.

Does shall not be infringed mean that 10 year olds may buy machine guns?   Where's the line?

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

It seems to be ok for 18 year olds to carry weapons to protect us.

Whenever I see this argument, I think, "Do you have any idea how strictly regulated the carry & use of firearms is on a military base?"

18 year-olds in the military are issued guns to use in the operation of their MOS. They don't get to keep & carry them under their own volition. Guns are checked in & out from an armory. Every hour a gun is checked out, and every round of ammo issued is accounted for. Do you want similar standards applied to private gun ownership for people age 18-20?

I'm a retired naval officer.    A lot of 18 year olds are pretty sketchy and we had a better than average group of people.    I am OK with restricting under 21 year olds' ability to purchase semiautomatic firearms.    I would like to have a more intense screening and training, that could get them approved for all legal firearms.

 Shall not be infringed means just that. Unalienable means just that. Restricting age won't stop these mentally challenged people and once bent on destruction they will carry it out in one form or another guns or not. The internet is rife with info on other means of destruction which are far worse than anything a gun can produce.
How about we address the reason why we are creating these monsters in the first place instead of trying to control them once they've been unleashed on society. The problems in play don't just start in the home they are perpetrated by the failed public school system as well. No one wants to do the hard work just the knee jerk feel good solutions that will never work and the left loves it when they can peel off some support from the right for their totalitarian agenda in the process. No crazy will be stopped by any of the recent legislation. Every criminal that wants a guns still has one and those who don't will get one easier than the law abiding citizen who follows the rules.

Does shall not be infringed mean that 10 year olds may buy machine guns?   Where's the line?

The LINE is the legal age of emancipation which is currently 18 years of age. Maybe we could raise that to suit those who think that's the cure? How about 21 for everything or maybe even a higher age limit? We could repeal the 26th amendment as well since if a person is not mentally well rounded enough to own a gun at 18 then they certainly shouldn't be voting on issues or for candidates that affect the rest of us.
No you simply fit into the knee jerk reactionary category. We've had a few instances of young people doing heinous things and you think banning that age group will stop it. 
Why don't you spend some time researching some cases and you'll see that most are committed by older individuals. The recent NY subway shooting was committed By Frank James who was 62 at the time. Colin Ferguson was 35 when he shot up the NY subway in 1993. David Chou who attacked a church in California in May of this year was 68 at the time. Let's not forget Tim Mcvey who in 1995 was age 25 when he detonated a truck bomb in Oklahoma City killing 168 people and damaging the Alfred P. Murrah building beyond repair.
This list could go on and fill pages but what's the point. Nothing you propose will curtail anything we've seen recently and never has.