Disappointed in S&W

[bang bang]

welcome

sometimes you can get by with sending it back the 1st time and hopefully it works.  But if it doesnt, you need to do as you need to do.

Not sure where someone thinks it takes x many days/weeks to fix something.  It takes as long as it takes. 

Troubleshooting an issues if you are lucky is as easy as 1, 2, 3.  If not, then you  need to spend more time.

I had the samething happen with a Taurus.  And a colt too.

[Fuzzy Sights]

Sic Vis:  Hope you are right and third time is the charm.  We will see.

JW

[Griz375]

How's the cylinder face to forcing cone gap?

I bought a new 586 back in 81 or 82 and it would lock up on me after less than a box of ammo.  The gap was about 1/3 of what was recommended (nope, 40 plus years ago, I don't remember the measurements I got with a set of spark plug blade feeler gauges).  I fixed it myself with a file and knife sharpening stones.  Zero issues since.

Not saying you should fix it yourself, just asking if you can measure that gap and when you call S&W give them the number you get from the measurement.

I can't be getting dirt inside the frame, not from a few shots.  it's got to be cylinder to forcing cone clearance or alignment.  But if it was alignment I'd think the damage to the bullets would result in lousy groups and some spitting of lead particles to the sides of the revolver when you fire it.

One other issue might be the cases moving back when they fire.  Never heard of it on a .22 but on some high pressure rounds (bottlenecked, too) it was an issue.

Can you turn the cylinder with your fingers when it does that?  It's crazy how little leverage pulling the trigger really transfers to the cylinder.

Saw a stainless steel S&W revolver lock up (back in the mid 80's again) due to galling of the crane against the cylinder.  Lack of lube over the years really screwed it up.  On that one (fixed sight .38 or .357, don't remember the model number) you couldn't get the cylinder to turn with even two fingers pulling the trigger.  But you could turn the cylinder with your fingers while pulling the trigger.  Probably not your issue if it'll go 3 cylinders of ammo before locking up.

Good luck with it.  Sorry to hear S&W can't/won't diagnose/repeat the problem when they've got it in their hands.

^^^^^
Pretty much cobers what I think the problem might be and I agree providing those measurements might be key to a successful fix.

Here's hoping.
Please update so we know how/if this was corrected.

[Fuzzy Sights]

Finally arrived on Wednesday. It is now at least shoot-able.  Put a box of NORMA Tac through the revolver all Double action.  It is not as smooth as it should be, but at least it does not lock up, you can without undue force open the action and eject the spent rounds with only thumb pressure.  No real note came with it other than they replaced the cylinder and repaired the yoke.  Spent brass still shows minor bulges at base of brass and there are still scratch marks on the barrel indicating contact between the barrel and the cylinder.

Not thrilled with this, but not sending it back.  Will put a couple thousand rounds through it and see if it smooths out.  Only took three trips back to S&W and 6 months to get to usable.

JW

May all your gun purchases be less eventful than this one.

[oneoff]

I'm sorry I'm just reading this, for the bulged case base is a tell.  My money would be that they mistakenly fit a 22WMR cylinder to it (assuming S&W) makes a similar length cylinder that would allow for that mistake.

You get that exact problem when accidentally firing LR's in a WMR cylinder in the single actions that come with conversion cylinders, and there is little other explanation if the cylinder is not "shaky" loose in the frame.  They swapped the cylinder on it, so now you can't measure it and find out (unless you did before?).

Sorry you had trouble. 

[Drewzer17]

In my opinion I never expect reliability from a 22

[Fuzzy Sights]

Drewzer17,
The frustrating part of it is that I own S&W 22 revolvers that are quite reliable and accurate.  This one was not, and it took them three tries to kind of fix it.  The first two I can not tell what they did.

JW