CZ P-01 Omega Not Firing

[simplemann]

I have a CZ P-01 Omega with 5K dry firing (with dummy rounds/Laser) and 700 live rounds through it. Im assuming its the firing pin retaining pin? Yeah I know Ive done a lot of dry firing with it, which by the way is mostly with an Itarget Pro laser which I highly recommend.

[Rmach]

Put a pencil (eraser end) down the barrel, point at the ceiling, and pull the trigger to see if the pencil moves. Of course, make sure there are no live bullets in the chamber.

[simplemann]

I did the pencil test and no it doesn't move. Thanks for your response anyways

[cntrydawwwg]

Sounds like it’s time to pull the FP and check the FP, FPRP, and springs.

[gtcooper]

Firing pin or firing pin spring broke

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[M1A4ME]

Could be a piece of firing pin retaining pin broken off and lodged in the firing pin channel that locked up the firing pin.  Can you push the firing pin forward if you remove the slide, depress the firing pin block (push it towards the top of the slide)? 

If the firing pin moves forward you should be able to see the tip of it come through the hole in the breech face.  If not, could be a broken tip on the firing pin.

I've seen the firing pin return spring break (on a rifle) and jam the firing pin up in the channel.

You should probably get the right sized punch, remove the slide from the frame, remove the barrel/recoil spring/guide and drive that firing pin retaining pin out of the slide to inspect it.  Install a new one (CGW or CZ Custom) when you put it back together, no matter what you find.

I've only had a couple omegas apart vs. the CZ75B types and right now I'm not picturing (in my mind) the way the firing pin block is lifted to allow the firing pin to move forward freely.  If that firing pin will more forward and protrude from the breech face with the slide off the frame and you pushing the firing pin block up while pushing on the rear of the firing pin with a ink pen tip then the mechanism may not be fully lifting the firing pin block up out of the way when you pull the trigger.  Never had that issue on an Omega so I'm not sure what would cause that (parts wise - fitting or function.)

Good luck with it.

If you don't want to fix it and it's new, call CZ USA and get them to e-mail you a return authorization form and shipping label to send it back to them (if you're in the USA).

[simplemann]

Thanks everyone for your input! Yes the firing pin tip is visible when I push on the firing pin. I'll take the FPRP out and inspect it to see if its damaged that would be an easy fix that I can handle or if its something else simple. I rather not send it in to CZ. Ill post my findings when I get a chance to work on it. Thanks again for all the suggestions 

[Fuzzy Sights]

Depends on how badly it is deformed.  It is just a simple roll pin and easily tapped out with the right punch.  Would replace with one of the CGW replacement pins.

Best of luck.

JW

[simplemann]

Update: I had time to knock the FPRP out and yes it was the RP that was damaged. The FP was jammed in there but I got it out, it was a couple of pieces of the RP causing the issue. I put in a new M*CARBO RP in and she's back in service  . Im going to write a review on M*CARBO on another thread. I didn't replace any springs this go around I wanted to go through a couple thousand dry fires and a few hundred live rounds then take the pin out inspect it and then Ill replace the springs.  I hope this information helps someone else if this happens to there P-01. Again thanks to everyone who offered assistance.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

We here all know about the weakness of the fprp in ALL CZ pistols that have them. The thing you should take away here is to use snap caps or an O ring between the hammer and firing pin to lessen the blow against the retaining pin when dry fire practicing. This stuff has been posted here ad nauseum. 

[simplemann]

I realize that most are aware of weakness of the RP. Ive never pulled the trigger without a snap cap or Itarget Pro Laser in it. I posted to share that information and to mention about the firing pin jamming in the slide. So Im assuming that using an O ring is better??

[M1A4ME]

As some have suggested, try to find a red o-ring.  People have reported that they've forgotten to pull the black o-ring out of the hammer cut/slot in the back of the slide.  They feel a red o-ring stands out so much it would be hard to miss/forget.

A snap cap becomes "used" over time and the surface the firing pin hits is damaged and allows the firing pin to move deeper/farther from the hammer strike.  At some point it could move enough to allow contact with the firing pin retaining pin (or so it might appear).

I personally believe all guns have the potential to be different.  It may be in spec. for selling/working but still be on the edge where damage to the firing pin retaining pin occurs more rapidly.  I've pulled one new firing pin retaining pin from a new pistol and found more damage on it that I found on another gun that I'd dry fired numerous times over the years before I found out damage can occur.

[simplemann]

As some have suggested, try to find a red o-ring.  People have reported that they've forgotten to pull the black o-ring out of the hammer cut/slot in the back of the slide.  They feel a red o-ring stands out so much it would be hard to miss/forget.

A snap cap becomes "used" over time and the surface the firing pin hits is damaged and allows the firing pin to move deeper/farther from the hammer strike.  At some point it could move enough to allow contact with the firing pin retaining pin (or so it might appear).

I personally believe all guns have the potential to be different.  It may be in spec. for selling/working but still be on the edge where damage to the firing pin retaining pin occurs more rapidly.  I've pulled one new firing pin retaining pin from a new pistol and found more damage on it that I found on another gun that I'd dry fired numerous times over the years before I found out damage can occur.
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Yes that makes sense about the FP moving deeper. I use the ITarget Laser a lot and I have noticed the rubber (primer) having an indent in it. The red o-ring is a great idea! Thank you again for your input. I realize that parts wear out after use so Im going to inspect that FPRP after 2k pulls on the trigger to see its condition.