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Offline M1A4ME

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Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« on: January 17, 2022, 05:00:42 PM »
That thread on P07/P09/P10 magazines got me wondering about the pistols.

When CZ started with the P10.  It was just a P10.  P10 with a letter on the back end to let you know if it was a full sized pistol, or a compact, or a subcompact.

But, the P07 is a Compact and the P09 is it's bigger full sized brother.

Why did CZ call the Compact .40 S&W a P06 instead of just calling it a .40 S&W P01?  Or CZ Compact (never saw a P06 so I don't know if they had a rail, or no rail.)

CZ didn't change the model number/name to call a .40 S&W CZ75B by a different model number, so why was the .40 S&W Compact pistol called a different model number?

Not sure, either, what the P01 vs. SP01 means.  Does "S" mean someting beside "S"? 

A CZ75B is a full sized CZ75 with a firing pin block.  A CZ75 Compact isn't called a CZ75B Compact.  Is it?  I don't remember seeing a "B" on the back side of CZ75, just CZ75 Compact on the slide.

Just sort of hit me as funny.  I guess there's a lot of things we don't really know about the reasons CZ does some of the things they do.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2022, 06:21:29 PM »
CZ P06


https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-06/





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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2022, 07:04:58 PM »
No "B" on the compacts I've seen, but I do remember hearing one time about a fairly rare batch of decockers that were marked "BD"


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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2022, 05:10:24 AM »
I can tell you why there is no P-08...because that number was forever taken by the P-08 Luger over a century ago. That is exactly why there is no CZ P-08.

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2022, 08:30:45 AM »
So a P06 is a .40 S&W P01.

Why wasn't a P09 a P07F?

Why is a CZ75B in .40 S&W still a CZ75B?

Just funny how they don't stick with a naming scheme.

Then again, funny how I can buy a CZ75 Compact with a rail or without a rail.

Or buy a P01 with a steel frame or with an aluminum frame.  With thumb safeties (P01 steel frame) or with a decocking lever (P01 aluminum frame).

How some CZ75 models have upwards tapered beaver tails and some don't.

Some have single left side safeties (CZ75B in 9MM) or a ambidextrous thumb safeties (CZ75B in .40 S&W).

Some CZ75Bs have rails all the front end of the slide (.40 S&W) or rails that end at the front of the frame (9MM).

I'll bet a tour through the CZ factory and a discussion with the technicians running the machines and engineers would be really, really interesting.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 09:24:05 AM »
Some have single left side safeties (CZ75B in 9MM) or a ambidextrous thumb safeties (CZ75B in .40 S&W).

Not to leave out 9mm CZ75B in stainless having ambi safeties. 

The CZ model names have always confused me...... particularly in a forum when, for instance, a member is looking for a holster recommendation for say a "P06.
That ^ would typically have me looking the model up to identify.

My rule of thumb, despite being correct or not, has CZ models starting with P signifying a plastic framed pistol and the B in CZ75B stands for butchered and I move on. Saves search engine time that way   8)
« Last Edit: January 18, 2022, 09:29:06 AM by double-d »

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2022, 12:45:06 PM »
CZ 52 because it was put into production in 1952?
CZ 75 because it was put into production in 1975?
CZ 75-b because it has a firing pin block safety that was a big enough of a change to warrant a suffix letter?

Just guesses on my part but the timelines seem to make sense.

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2022, 01:12:59 PM »
I think the addition of the "B" refers to those guns being the "B" model or second version which is likely why the compacts never carried the "B" since I don't think there was an early model compact.

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2022, 10:58:50 PM »
How about where did the "2075" in 2075 RAMI come from?
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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2022, 07:09:13 AM »
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Just sort of hit me as funny.  I guess there's a lot of things we don't really know about the reasons CZ does some of the things they do.

These statistics might help explain the model naming methodology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_beer_consumption_per_capita

Also note that the Austrians and Germans are up there as well!
CZ24/27/38/40P/45/52, Vzor 50/70,75BΩ,75D Compact,P01/07/09,P10M/S/C/F(9mm,.45), Phantom,SP01 Tactical,Shadow 2 (Blue,Urban Gray), 82/83/85 PreB, 97BE,97BD,97BDE,100,1911A1, 2075D RAMI,452 American,550 Urban Counter Sniper,805 Bren S1,Drake G2,Duo,Z,vz24 8mm Mauser,FK 7.5 BRNO Field Pistol, PSD

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2022, 01:08:51 PM »
A Czech woman in Uherský Brod was three months pregnant when she fell into a deep coma.  She awoke ten months later.

The woman asked the doctor about her baby.

Doctor: You had twins, a boy and a girl. They’re both fine. And, your brother named them for you.

Woman: No, no, no! Not my brother. He works at the CZ factory. He is responsible for naming their firearms models. What did he name the girl?

Doctor: Denise.

Woman: Ohh, that’s actually a nice name. What about the boy?

Doctor, sighing deeply: Denephew.
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CZ 83, 9 Browning Court, Satin Nickel
CZ 75 Compact, 9 Luger, Dual Tone — Satin Nickel/Matte Blue
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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2022, 06:33:26 PM »
A Czech woman in Uherský Brod was three months pregnant when she fell into a deep coma.  She awoke ten months later.

The woman asked the doctor about her baby.

Doctor: You had twins, a boy and a girl. They’re both fine. And, your brother named them for you.

Woman: No, no, no! Not my brother. He works at the CZ factory. He is responsible for naming their firearms models. What did he name the girl?

Doctor: Denise.

Woman: Ohh, that’s actually a nice name. What about the boy?

Doctor, sighing deeply: Denephew.

My wife just asked me what was so funny.  I'm still chuckling a bit after the laugh from the punch line is over, the chuckles continue.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did you ever wonder why/how CZ names their pistol models?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2022, 01:19:05 PM »
I always thought P stood for Police in Czech, probably because of PCR.