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Why we plunk rounds.
« on: February 14, 2022, 08:27:04 PM »
Explanation of why I plunk rounds on Rumble. Run the same ammo in all barrels, but you gotta check! this is why...
https://rumble.com/vuylzb-reloading-9mm-why-we-plunk-rounds-124precision-deltas-and-naas3-cases.html
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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2022, 01:21:57 PM »
A full explanation already existed on... you guessed it... The Original CZ Forum !!
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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2022, 09:53:39 PM »
Well yeah, but I didn't see any on Rumble specifically so now there is one there too.
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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2022, 09:25:20 AM »
Point of interest:

9mm brass almost never meet spec on length.  Unless you are using brand new Starline, your brass are likely headspacing on the extractor instead of the case mouth.  ;)

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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2022, 10:46:59 AM »
excellent point! I would think that would keep your ogive farther away from the rifiling?
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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2022, 12:09:40 PM »
Does typically used pistol brass ever stretch too long?

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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2022, 01:55:33 PM »
Almost never...I just cannot say NEVER EVER EVER.
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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2022, 02:48:47 PM »
What I've found through roll sizing is that the brass shortens due to the base expanding (just above the extractor groove).  Typical 9mm cases generally are in the sub 0.740 inch length range post firing.  When you full length resize them they may grow back a little to sub ~0.745 inch or so.  When you roll size them, they grow back to ~0.750 inch.  Conservation of mass rings true, if you stretch the base the brass has to come from somewhere.

The folks at Rollsizer.com don't recommend using a undersize die along with rollsized brass.  I think you could potentially run into cases that are too long.  I haven't yet but it's possible.

Pistol cases don't stretch rearward when fired like a bottle neck rifle cartridge.  They just fill the chamber radially and hence they shorten over time depending on how sloppy the chamber is that is firing them.

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Re: Why we plunk rounds.
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2022, 08:08:01 AM »
What I've found through roll sizing is that the brass shortens due to the base expanding (just above the extractor groove).  Typical 9mm cases generally are in the sub 0.740 inch length range post firing.  When you full length resize them they may grow back a little to sub ~0.745 inch or so.  When you roll size them, they grow back to ~0.750 inch.  Conservation of mass rings true, if you stretch the base the brass has to come from somewhere.

The folks at Rollsizer.com don't recommend using a undersize die along with rollsized brass.  I think you could potentially run into cases that are too long.  I haven't yet but it's possible.

Pistol cases don't stretch rearward when fired like a bottle neck rifle cartridge.  They just fill the chamber radially and hence they shorten over time depending on how sloppy the chamber is that is firing them.

Cheers,
Toby

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