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Offline Jiva

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2020, 05:46:21 PM »
I got the P-01 coz it's a unicorn ;)

Seriously though, nowadays mine stays on the night stand and I like having a light.
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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2020, 05:02:55 PM »
I have the steel frame 75B Compact and prefer it over any of the P-01 variants. I simply have no use for a rail on a handgun. There's no difference in performance other than rail vs non-rail.

The biggest reason people want the steel frame is to upgrade the trigger. It’s harder to do that on the decockers. 
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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2020, 06:07:40 PM »
I have the steel frame 75B Compact and prefer it over any of the P-01 variants. I simply have no use for a rail on a handgun. There's no difference in performance other than rail vs non-rail.

The biggest reason people want the steel frame is to upgrade the trigger. It’s harder to do that on the decockers.

I can upgrade the decocker models JUST as easily as I can the safety models. Decockers are pretty simple once you do a couple. 

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2020, 06:48:51 PM »
I have the steel frame 75B Compact and prefer it over any of the P-01 variants. I simply have no use for a rail on a handgun. There's no difference in performance other than rail vs non-rail.

The biggest reason people want the steel frame is to upgrade the trigger. It’s harder to do that on the decockers.

I can upgrade the decocker models JUST as easily as I can the safety models. Decockers are pretty simple once you do a couple.

Agree.  They are only bad the first time...

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2020, 12:48:33 PM »
Can you "tune" a decocker trigger as well/smooth as a safety trigger? Seems like the general opinion indicates the safety trigger to be superior. Could also be the additional effort with the decocker that soured the mix. I prefer the decocker models personally.

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2020, 10:38:45 AM »
Can you "tune" a decocker trigger as well/smooth as a safety trigger? Seems like the general opinion indicates the safety trigger to be superior. Could also be the additional effort with the decocker that soured the mix. I prefer the decocker models personally.
You can tune either one equally well. My BD models are every bit as good as my B models.

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2020, 04:58:28 PM »
Love my Compact, been my daily carry since January. Have had this since new, bought in 03. Never an issue, but I did chamfer the bottom of the beavertail for a bit of a higher (gun lower in hand) hold. Cold blue and its hard to tell.

So I presume you did not modify the angle of the beavertail, just the edges.  What did you use to chamfer it, a Dremmel tool, a file?

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2022, 11:18:42 AM »
I have the steel frame 75B Compact and prefer it over any of the P-01 variants. I simply have no use for a rail on a handgun. There's no difference in performance other than rail vs non-rail.

The biggest reason people want the steel frame is to upgrade the trigger. It’s harder to do that on the decockers.

Sorry for reviving an older thread, 2020 vs 2022, but it answers some of my questions. Hope y'all are still around. Considering a P-01 Steel. Model numbers are hard to find anymore. Seems like the alternative P-01 is alloy with an ? (Omega) trigger, as listed in the 2022 catalog. The ? trigger, like my P-07, is convertible to decocker or safety. My understanding is that the safety-only trigger could reach a higher state of tune - is that a myth? (lighter & smoother pull)

I like both types - with or w/out the rail. No rail is a little bit smoother to carry and draw, rail allows carrying a light or laser, or a combo, and adds just a tiny amount more weight on the front; this can change the balance ever so slightly, but I think it won't appreciably affect muzzle-rise.

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Re: CZ 75 COMPACT vs CZ P-01 STEEL FRAME
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2022, 12:02:39 PM »
The trigger pull is a combination of the parts used and the care taken in cleaning up/polishing the contacting surfaces.

I know I don't go nearly as far/hard into things as some of the folks here do.  I have no issues stoning polishing the flat surfaces.  Some of the guys here polish the trigger/hammer pins, the insides of the hammer pin hole in the hammer and other places I let the lube take care of for me.

Probably why my best triggers are a crisp 3 lbs. on a couple B models while my Tactical Sport is 1.7 lbs. (the old TS pistols were also safety models but SAO).

I really don't notice the carry weight of a P01 Omega vs. a CZ75 Compact.  Whatever is on the hip/in the holster is forgotten/not noticed after a few days of carrying it (not true for a pistol with an awkward carry, like a P09 or something with a full sized barrel/frame that sticks out/jams up when sitting in the car/truck but that's still not weight, it's awkwardness).

The two worst (rough, draggy, notchy, high trigger pull weight) pistols I ever bought were those two CZ75 Compacts (steel frame with the P01 style rails and ambidextrous safeties) I bought several years ago.  Never fired one of them and converted the other to SAO.  Not sure why both of those had ugly triggers.

Don't let the internet tell you what is bad about CZ pistols.  Get one and try it out yourself.  I own several brands of pistols but I carry the CZs and spend too much time/money on those other ones trying to get them to shoot like the CZ's I carry all the time.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?