We went to the outdoor range to do some 38 work...holy great stinking garbanzos, it was way too crowded. I decided I would have to get SOME trigger time in, and managed to get a target out. Wasn't good, trying to find what this new Smith likes, but the loud music, (we had a party next to us with a boom box...no, not an 80s one, but the smaller version, playing Mexican Top 40s), and two of us tied to only one lane. Da Boy didn't even try to shoot, and we packed it up in about 30 minutes. Wasn't worth it.