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Offline crc4

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Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« on: November 30, 2022, 07:07:03 AM »
Interesting video on how to protect the firing pin while dry firing. Makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNDK6QQHXfU

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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2022, 08:54:27 AM »
Watched it.

Some people here say to use a red o-ring instead of a black one.  Helps you see it better and remember to take it out when you're done.  Sounded like a good idea to me.

Some people here say the factory firing pin retaining pin is designed/installed to be a "sacrificial" part.  It takes damage from the firing pin vs. damaging the firing pin.  Better to damage a cheap, easy to replace roll pin vs. damaging the firing pin.  I tend to agree with that one also.

I've pulled the firing pin retaining pins out of brand new pistols I've never fired (factory test firing only) and found the firing pin has started to ding the firing pin retaining pin. 

None of the above means I wouldn't use an o-ring if I was going to do a lot of dry firing.  Just info/observations.

I watched the DA dry fire part three times.  I swear on some of those trigger pulls it looks like the hammer does NOT move fully rearward before it releases to move forward again.  I can see the blur of it at the end of it's rearward travel as it stops and moves forward again.  But, every now and then I don't see that blur.  That's why I watched it several times.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2022, 09:35:29 AM »
Did you replace the firing pin retaining pin? Seems as though it might be a good idea for me as I've shot and dry-fired quite a bit since 2006. Even using snap caps though I believe those are to protect the firing pin, not the retaining pin. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2022, 10:21:34 AM »
Did you replace the firing pin retaining pin? Seems as though it might be a good idea for me as I've shot and dry-fired quite a bit since 2006. Even using snap caps though I believe those are to protect the firing pin, not the retaining pin. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

It is worth taking it out for a quick inspection.  Worst case, it is fine and you put it back. 

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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2022, 02:20:55 PM »
I wonder if those laser cartridges work well at protecting the firing and retaining pins. I use them in my H&K's and would like to use one in my P07

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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2022, 02:41:53 PM »
I wonder if those laser cartridges work well at protecting the firing and retaining pins. I use them in my H&K's and would like to use one in my P07

In my personal experience, no they don't. 
Not saying don't use them, just realize that the pin will take hits. 
FWIW the pin costs like $3, check on it occasionally and replace as needed.

Here is an example https://imgur.com/gallery/YJsFfPJ


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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2022, 04:27:58 PM »
Not sure. I always use snap caps, laser cartridges, and orings

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Re: Is it safe to dry fire a CZ -75
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2022, 05:16:12 PM »
Seems like, sometime or other, we discussed some of these issues/questions/ideas previously.

I just looked at my P09 .40, again.  Handy to have one by the chair when you're going over questions on the forum.

I can see through the firing pin retaining pin, easily.  Bright, shiny, no apparent damage/bulges to mess up the light coming through the roll pin center hole.

Seems the firing pin retaining pin on this pistol is in excellent shape.  If the firing pin was caving that roll pin in I should be able to see that bulged surface due to it messing up the light/making a dark spot/shadow on the eye side of the pin.

Seems like I've wondered about/suggested (but never think to do on my own guns) is to find the right diameter drill bit that easily, but snugly, slides through that roll pin center.  Once the drill bit stop sliding through you'll know the firing pin retaining pin is getting some damage from the firing pin strikes.  Going to a smaller drill bit could tell you how much deformation you've got.  At some point (measured using smaller and smaller drill bits you might get an idea that it's time to change that pin out - but who would we know what size drill bit is the minimum?
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?