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Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« on: April 03, 2023, 08:24:48 AM »
 I've been seeing more tactical style stocks and less thumbhole stocks. I personally prefer a regular old fashioned stock.
 Over the years, I've seen too many shooters cant their rifles with these types of stocks.

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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2023, 02:59:52 PM »
I've been seeing more tactical style stocks and less thumbhole stocks. I personally prefer a regular old fashioned stock. Over the years, I've seen too many shooters cant their rifles with these types of stocks.

Where have you been, Rip Van Winkle?

There has never been a “craze” in favor of thumbhole stocks. They were just a necessary contrivance to import rifles (mainly AKs) by providing some semblance of a (fugly) butt stock and pistol grip without running afoul of 922(r) regulations. Nowadays, there’s lots of US-made 922(r) compliant furniture available to import weapons and sell them in the tactical configuration they were meant to be.

The last thumbhole stocks I saw were during the Obonzo regime, just before the Russian import ban kicked in. They were basically pieces of firewood, roughly hewn into the shape of a thumbhole stock, hastily screwed onto Vepr AKs as they were getting kicked out the Molot factory doors before the ban took effect.
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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2023, 08:55:52 PM »
 Remington 700 varmint thumbhole, savage, and a number of other bolt action were made.  Center fire and rimfire.
 Time for a nap. Lol

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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2023, 04:20:40 PM »
Remington 700 varmint thumbhole, savage, and a number of other bolt action were made.  Center fire and rimfire.
 Time for a nap. Lol

Even among traditional bolt guns, thumbhole stocks are the oddity rather than the norm, especially since the butthole stocks on imported semi auto rifles are associated with AWBs and BS atf regulations, which leave a negative connotation on them.

Nowadays, the evolution in bolt guns is toward customizable tactical chassis rifles with optics rails, pistol grips, adjustable LOP and cheek risers and the ability to easily mount all sorts of accessories on them, which is a quantum leap forward in terms of ergonomics and utility over traditional wood stocks, which are susceptible to changes in humidity and temperature and are not nearly as versatile as a chassis.
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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2023, 05:13:55 PM »
One of my CZ 527 Varmint rifles (a 17 Remington) wears one a red Boyds left hand thumbhole stock for a right-handed action CZ rifle. Mostly just because, no good reasoning involved. But I do prefer a wooden stock over the tactical look stocks.  So, the thumb hole stock isn't quite dead but on life support.

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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2023, 02:58:45 AM »
One of my CZ 527 Varmint rifles (a 17 Remington) wears one a red Boyds left hand thumbhole stock for a right-handed action CZ rifle. Mostly just because, no good reasoning involved. But I do prefer a wooden stock over the tactical look stocks.  So, the thumb hole stock isn't quite dead but on life support.


Aesthetics definitely count. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder as always, whatever aesthetic that may be. I mean, a gun’s gotta be SEXY, right?

That said, IMO, ergonomics go a long way in improving the aesthetic desireability of a weapon, visually. I didn’t care much for the LOOKS of the CZ75 series when I started shooting them — they were kind of ungainly and unorthodox-looking, in my eyes — but they shot so well and felt so good, I fell in love with their looks. Now they’re the sexiest pistols around IMO. There’s an association between ergonomic and visual appeal. In that sense, there’s a parallel to be drawn to women…
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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2023, 09:15:48 AM »
Remington 700 varmint thumbhole, savage, and a number of other bolt action were made.  Center fire and rimfire.
 Time for a nap. Lol

Even among traditional bolt guns, thumbhole stocks are the oddity rather than the norm, especially since the butthole stocks on imported semi auto rifles are associated with AWBs and BS atf regulations, which leave a negative connotation on them.

Nowadays, the evolution in bolt guns is toward customizable tactical chassis rifles with optics rails, pistol grips, adjustable LOP and cheek risers and the ability to easily mount all sorts of accessories on them, which is a quantum leap forward in terms of ergonomics and utility over traditional wood stocks, which are susceptible to changes in humidity and temperature and are not nearly as versatile as a chassis.

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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2023, 11:07:38 AM »
a gun’s gotta be SEXY, right?

Nope.
 
Firearms are tools that simply needs to work, cute, sexy or battered-up fugly imo.

FWIW- I love my pre-awb thumbholed stocked varmint eradicator.


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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2023, 06:54:30 PM »



Aesthetics definitely count. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder as always, whatever aesthetic that may be. I mean, a gun’s gotta be SEXY, right?

That said, IMO, ergonomics go a long way in improving the aesthetic desireability of a weapon, visually. I didn’t care much for the LOOKS of the CZ75 series when I started shooting them — they were kind of ungainly and unorthodox-looking, in my eyes — but they shot so well and felt so good, I fell in love with their looks. Now they’re the sexiest pistols around IMO. There’s an association between ergonomic and visual appeal. In that sense, there’s a parallel to be drawn to women…
                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                             The second or third handgun I purchased was a Beretta 92S. I've always thought the 92 series were really neat looking. It was supper reliable but HUGE for a 9mm. As much as I like the look and as well as it ran just couldn't get over the size issue. So it went. Personally, I always like the CZ 75's looks. I prefer them to the other CZ pistols. It's also a more reasonably size 9mm. My red thumbhole stocked CZ 527 gets shot from a rest or supported position and fits me fairly well, at least as well as the factory stock anyway. I don't think I'd want a heavy recoiling rifle with a thumb holed stock though.

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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2023, 07:21:16 PM »
 Around my neck of the woods, ( central Texas), every place that sold guns had thumbhole stocks. 10 22s savage, remington, winchesters and so on. Now it's mostly tactical. Still a few thumbholes. Seems to have lasted for about 10 years.
 No thumbhole in my inventory, just one tactical rifle in 338 lapua. A number of ar's. The rest are traditional style stocks.
 Nothing against any of them.
 Back to my nap. Lol.

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Re: Thumbhole stock craze over with?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2023, 11:40:23 PM »
a gun’s gotta be SEXY, right?

Nope.
 
Firearms are tools that simply needs to work, cute, sexy or battered-up fugly imo.

FWIW- I love my pre-awb thumbholed stocked varmint eradicator.


To me, the better a gun shoots and the more ergonomic it feels, the sexier it is. Some people regard the Rami as an ugly duckling, but to me, she shoots so well and feels so good that she looks hot.

On the other hand, the butthole stocks that came on imported AKs, FALs, etc. during the AWB just look like hell, regardless as to whether they were marginally functional compared to their configuration as designed. Those BS butthole stocks just pissed me off and was the first thing I changed on them.