A 7.62x25 Glock 20?

[Wallew]

OK, here's the thing.

There are two threads here about 'different' or 'better' or 'modernized' pistols that fire the 7.62x25.

So, I contacted Lone Wolf Distributors, who make Glock barrels for all sorts of Glocks.  I asked if they would be willing to make a standard length barrel in 7.62x25 to fit a Glock 20.

Currently, Lone Wolf Distributing makes Glock 20 barrels in .40 s&w, .357 sig and 9mm.  They MIGHT even make a .22 conversion slide to fit the Glock 20.  The Glock 20 starts out as a 10mm.  So it SHOULD be stout enough to handle the 7.62x25.  AND for all you high cap guys, it can be had with a 15 round magazine.  I think standard mag is 10, but I could be incorrect on that one.

SO, whadda youse guys say?  Would YOU have an interest in a Glock 20 that you could 'drop in' a 7.62x25 barrel and use the 15 round high cap magazines??  Not trying to SELL you anything.  IF I can talk Lone Wolf Distributing in this, YOU would have to purchase a Glock 20, YOU would have to purchase the Lone Wolf Distributing 7.62x25 barrel, YOU would ... well, YOU get the idea, right?

I'm just trying to gauge interest.  Next stop?  Glock Talk to see if anyone over there would be interested.

This all came about when on a different site, someone asked about the 'ultimate' shtf pistol.  Well, except for .45 acp, this one SEEMS to cover the majority of the calibers out there.  OK, I GUESS you could say "what, no .32 caliber?  what, no .380 cal?"  And you would be correct.  But I kinda figure the 9mm covers that.  And if there is a .22 conversion slide, then you could plink realitively cheaply.

I WILL report back.

[wolfshell]

the Glock 20 would have enough strength to use the 7.62x25, as it has less recoil than the full load 10mm.  At least it feels like that to me.  The only concern would be the extractor and firing pin placement as the rim is smaller on the 7.62 than the 10mm, so the conversion would probably not be a drop in.

[Otto N Sure]

I'm a little late to the party, but there is a "modern" pistol chambered in the 7.62x25 and here it is:



It's made by Zastava in Yugoslavia, but I don't think any of their sporting arms are currently being imported.  Zastava is also the manufacturer of the CZ 99 that we see for sale from time to time.

Otto

[tf34mech]

EAA is the current importer of Zastava though they don't list this model on their oddly arranged website.

[CZooter42]

How much would the GLock cost, anyway? About $600-$700? If so, I think I could dig up the dough for it somewhere. Seems like the amount of work to get a 10mm converted to .30 tok would be pricey, though. You'd be replacing everything except the slide, frame, and trigger...

[Walt-Sherrill]

Seems to me that the 10mm round (especially if loaded on the hot side) would be far better for self-defense and home defense than the 7.62x25.   Why bother?  With a 10mm round, much more lead will be going into the target (and in most cases, staying there) with greater tissue damage, too.

You guys seem to have a solution in search of a problem...

[CZooter42]

Cheaper ammo, higher capacity, cover piercing, flatter trajectory? It would be like a cheaper, larger bore Five-seveN.

[CZ Prime]

Why would anyone want to buy a POS like a BLOCK (read Glock)? They have lousy triggers and even lousier ergonomics. I can's shoot one without the slide leaving tracks on the back of my hand with a proper grip. Much better to buy a nice CZ-52 for less and work on it.

[brigadier]

You will have to strip the synthetics off of 2 Glock 17 magazines, cut and weld them together correctly. You MAY also end up having to slightly enlarge the magazine well as the 7.62x25 is a little longer then the 10mm Auto and will not correctly fit the magazines. I have done many conversions like this in the past, my 10mm Beretta being the latest and perhaps the best example:
http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=31021
Believe me when I say that they are no walk in the park and you better really understand what you're doing. The good news is that you may be able to pull it off without modifying the gun it's self at all since everything in the Glock 20 is overkill as far as handling 7.62x25 goes though I am a bit skeptical about that one.

[brigadier]

Cheaper ammo, higher capacity, cover piercing, flatter trajectory? It would be like a cheaper, larger bore Five-seveN.

I am pretty sure that there are 10mm loads with longer range and flatter trajectory then the hottest 7.62x25 rounds. The ammo that I keep in my 10mm Beretta shoots at 200-300fps faster then any 7.62x25 that I know of.

[CZooter42]

10mm must really kick. What are the grain weights on your loads? I don't see many 10mms in my town.

[brigadier]

This is the load I was referring to:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=45&osCsid=2f6bd56b3ed659465d2504872ae89b82

You can see it in action here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8NoanE9q-o

Doesn't kick too hard out of my Beretta (probably about the same as S&B out of a CZ-52 but with soft impact) but then again, my Beretta is loaded down in recoil compensating accessories to keep it from smashing the frame to pieces. When last I checked, the fastest non-wildcat/sabot 7.62x25 round that's safe to fire from the CZ-52 gets around 1400fps and I think the bullet is around 175-180gr, a little more then half the weight of the 135gr bullets I shoot from the 10mm. None the less, the 7.62x25 has allot of potential that the 10mm does not. I just haven't seen any evidence that flatter trajectory or longer accurate range is one of them.