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Offline tsellati

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Need help with dangerous situation
« on: January 29, 2008, 02:27:57 AM »
I was at the range today with my vz.52 pistol for which I have a 9 mm barrel. Had no problems cycling commercial ammunition, however, when I switched to my handloads (124 grain SLRN in full-length resized once-fired Fiocchi brass) that's when the trouble started. First few rounds went off OK though the fit seemed a bit snug since with one or two rounds the slide did not go into battery. That was not too bad to deal with, but then, a round chambered and would not fire. I am not sure if the round never got a powder charge or what the issue might be. Anyway, I now have a potentially live round in the chamber and cannot for the life of me pull the slide back to eject the round.

Any suggestions of how to rectify this problem is much appreciated.

Tim

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 06:24:11 PM »
Isn't this type of problem fun?  I had a S&W model 10 that was unopenable and had a full load of old bullets.  I ended up soaking the gun in light machine oil for about 3 months to deactivate the powder, then malleting the cylinder open.  I also had to do the following with a 45, though I new the round was a dud, as I seated a bullet in a spent case.  In your case, I would first ask a good gunsmith what to do, and if they can fix it.  If you or they don't want to do that, I would take the slide section off and soak the whole thing like I did.  Then when you think the possible live round is  dead due too the oil, try to remove the round.  I would remove the fireing pin first.  Then if you can get the barrel out, that might do it.  If the barrel dosn't come out, re-assemble the gun minus the grips, clamp it into a padded vise(Use soft wood, leather, or heavy cloth to padd the vise).  After that, drill a whole a little bigger than the barrel in a board, and use a mallet to hit the board, with the board lined up whole to barrel.  Be careful, and go slow.  you should be able to tap the slide back.  Same idea differnt way is to use a hardwood dowel down the barrel, and try to tap the round out directly.  I would be very careful, and wear eye and ear protection, and don't place yourself or anything valuable (like family) in line with the barrel. If you can do this a a range, do so.  A warning!  I am NOT a gun smith!  And even though I have used all these methods, USE THESE METHODS AT YOUR OWN RISK, AND ONLY AFTER CHECKING WITH A GUN SMITH FOR OTHER OPTIONS/OPINIONS!!!
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Offline tsellati

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 10:01:24 PM »
This was a scary one, though as it turned out there was no cause for alarm as the stuck case was spent. I left the pistol in my locked car overnight during which time the temperature dropped into the teens. This morning when it was still only about 20 degrees F I was able to rack the pistol's slide backwards and eject the spent case. The primer strike was solid and there was no bullet lodged in the barrel so I assume this was not a squibb round. The first ten rounds I started with had the lowest indicated powder charge according to several of my reloading manuals. So, I wonder if these rounds are just too under-powered to chamber and cycle the pistol consistently and smoothly. I have groups of ten rounds with increasing powder charges so I will give them a try the next time I get over to the range.

Thanks again for your help.

Tim

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2008, 08:34:23 PM »
Your Welcome, and I am glad you didn't need my method