VZ-58/ak47 accuracy

[kincade]

 Guess I'll just have to wait to get my hands on one. Centerfire inc. had a VZ-58 for $600+, don't remember exact price. My curiosity is nagging me, I want test fire all of them, including an AR15. So many choices, so little $$
found it   http://www.myvirtualpaper.com/doc/Centerfire-Systems-Inc/centerfire_dec/2009112401/  7th page.

[Southern Forester]

I certainly prefer the VZ58 over the AK any day (but not over my PSL).  I have a DSA AR15 but it is close to being sold because it does not provide buoyancy to my aquatic transportation.

Davis

[armoredman]

kincade, if I were you I'd look at Czechpoint as I believe the one listed for $599 at Centerfire is a Century made copy. Some of the Century's work fine, but in my horrible experiance I will never again buy a rifle they have "built". Click the picture at the top of this page as see the real deal.

[kincade]

Thanks for the heads up, armoredman and saving me from a future headache.

[kincade]

Omg! Just seen the video for the vz.61 Scorpion! Ok now im seriously drooling. So the Scorpion shoots 9mm only? I'd have to get one silenced ready with the cool folding stock. Wow!! I'd give up my P-06 for one, as ugly as they look, kinda of like a bulldog or some pug nose, you know... so ugly they're cute.

[armoredman]

No, Skorpion is in 32.ACP only, a .380 version is in the works.

[jk47]

I would say the accuracy between my VZ- 58 and my Yugoslavian under folder are similar.

[kincade]

Jeez... 32? Still would be fun to shoot. Can't wait to see the VZ-58 video. If I'm patient enough I'll get the VZ-58, but if I impulsively buy... an ak47. I can hear the wise words of a friend ringing in my ears, "Get what you really want the 1st time or you'll be disappointed and will probably trade and spend extra $$ toget it later"

[armoredman]

Very true, I have had 3 AKs over the years, I have a vz-58...

[kincade]

armoredman, with your past experience would you say that the VZ58 design is more simple, (less parts overall) and your take on function reliability compared to your previous history with the ak's? Your last reply simply says VZ-58 but i want to throw a reasonable monkey wrench in my friends opinion on the reliability of an Ak vs VZ 58.

[salskov]

Kincade -

This is one of my alltime favorites for answering this sort of question:

http://50ae.net/VZ-vs-AK/

salskov

[armoredman]

The only AK I regret selling was a Hungarian underfolder with wooden vertical foregrip, back in '88, sold it for $300 in Concord, California, while in the service, two weeks later the Cali ban went into effect and it was worth $1500. It shot alright, fun to shoot. The WASRs are the worst, usually with canted sights and gas blocks, assmebled by Century's drunken monkeys. the last one I had to take to a gunsmith to restake the front sight before we sold it.
True Russian made AKs, like the 101 series, are supposed to be far better, but I have never played with one.
Both are reliable, both are rugged, I like the vz-58 better and feel it works better for me, plus mine shows better accuracy for me than the AKM clones I owned in the past.

Best answer I can give ya!

[kincade]

Thank you Salskov, saved to favorites and going to print copies on this tidbit.

[kincade]

armoredman was in the middle of typing when you replied. Actually talking to friend on cell phone, going to copy post and let him read it,( his internet is out of service) besides that, thank you guys!