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Offline Glock24

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Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« on: April 13, 2011, 02:15:02 PM »
Hi All,

     I have a SS CZ 75B that I love, it just has one problem - the trigger tears up my finger making it painful to shoot more than 50 - 100 rds at a time.  Does the 85 Combat trigger have less curve to it?  In some pictures, it appears to have as much curve as my gun.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 08:45:22 PM »
I have never had a combat but i think the curve of the trigger is the same. If no one has a real answer i would call CZ Custom tomorrow and tell them whats happening. My 3 CZ-75B's have never gave me this problem and i shoot alot of +9+. Not sure of a possibe cause??
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Offline Glock24

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 10:06:22 PM »
The stainless CZ trigger has more curve to it.  My father has a black polycoat CZ75 and his trigger has less curve and is more comfortable to shoot.  Someone in the 75B forum reported the same problem, it's on page 4 or 5 I think.

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 11:01:36 AM »
I have several CZ's from various vintages. Out of all my guns, only my 2006 stainless CZ75 and my 2010 Cold War commemorative have this dismal extra-curved trigger. I love all my guns and they're great shooters, but I despise this horrid new curved trigger and will never buy another CZ with one on there, since I don't want to deal with the hassle of switching it out, when I can buy minty used guns, or other new models, without the malady.

The bottom and side edges of the new super-curved trigger are too sharp, making the trigger tear up your finger. The travel is too far to the rear as well, occasionally pinching part of the pad of your finger behind the trigger and against the frame when the trigger is pulled fully to the rear.  Even worse, I cannot rely on these two guns for self-defense, because with my larger hands I cannot reliably cycle the trigger all the way to the rear with a double-action stroke. I practically have to crunch my hand into a balled fist around the grip frame to make the gun go off. It makes me have to shift my grip on the gun. I don't have any such problem with the standard triggers on all my wonderful CZ 75s and 85s from the 80's up until these two newer guns. I'm not even talking about the "trigger slap" phenomenon some people are discussing on other threads which is a stinging or numbing of their trigger finger. I'm just taking about the badly-shaped new design and the sharp, ugly edges of the curved, thin trigger.

Try sometime taking an older CZ with the standard trigger in one hand, and the newer CZ with a recurved trigger in the other hand. Try to dry-fire them double-action simultaneously. You'll very likely be shocked at how late the "recurved trigger" gun goes off, if at all, in comparison, and how much extra effort/squeezing force it takes to discharge it, if your hands are medium or slightly larger.  The recurve trigger drops the hammer at a point  where your hand is past its strongest, in the range of motion, if you're like me.

As far as the CZ 85 trigger goes...I know the CZ 85 triggers on my older guns are less curved than these newer CZ 75 triggers, but I now see listed on CZUSA the two versions of "new" CZ 85 triggers. Short of scavenging triggers off older CZ's, I'm not sure which current-issue trigger would go furthest toward solving this, if either, or how much the "newest" cz 85 trigger has been changed, and if it would be straight enough or forward enough now for my tastes.

Does anyone out there that has swapped their standard older trigger in favor of one of these new recurve triggers or newer adjustable CZ 85 triggers want to sell me their older style straighter, thicker trigger???? Please???  If anyone with small hands or a small stash of used parts is willing to part with , say, their 1995 to 2004 CZ 75B thicker trigger, I'm yer huckleberry! Please contact me, I just need two of 'em.  mgschindel@juno.com
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 09:29:27 PM by MGSchindel »

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 09:38:35 AM »
This same topic is running on a thread in the "75 B Club", but it's worth repeating here. I replaced the deeply recurved trigger that was biting me so badly with the "new" CZ 85 Combat Trigger from CZ Custom. I'm not satisfied with the results. It bites less, but it still bites. Feel free to discuss this with CZ Custom. I did and all I got were very vague replies to my questions. I believe they want to avoid this topic.

Photos of considerably older CZ 75s appear to show a trigger more gently curved than any available. My own plan is to heat up and reshape the trigger I received from CZ Custom. In the mean time I have quit using my CZ in competition altogether. My Beretta 92 FS doesn't bite.

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 09:54:27 AM »
dlidster..which 85C trigger did you get
http://czcustom.com/cz85combattriggershadow.aspx   ( this is the new CZ factory 85C trigger, it has the tighter radius )

or
http://czcustom.com/CZ85Combattrigger.aspx ( this is the CZ Custom part that is supposed to be the old radius, but thinner )

if you do not need the overtravel stop, the CZ97 trigger is the old radius and fits the CZ75/SP01 series of guns. CZ-USA has these.

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 01:13:08 PM »
dlidster..which 85C trigger did you get
http://czcustom.com/cz85combattriggershadow.aspx   ( this is the new CZ factory 85C trigger, it has the tighter radius )

or
http://czcustom.com/CZ85Combattrigger.aspx ( this is the CZ Custom part that is supposed to be the old radius, but thinner )

if you do not need the overtravel stop, the CZ97 trigger is the old radius and fits the CZ75/SP01 series of guns. CZ-USA has these.

I purchased the CZ 85 Original Trigger with over-travel Screw ("Angus' favorite"). The over-travel adjustment was not a factor. I appreciate the lead on the 97 trigger, but I'm finished buying and trying. As I said, I'll probably reshape the trigger I purchased from CZ Custom. If that doesn't work, I'll reinstall the original trigger and leave the gun in a safe place till I give it to my son-in-law or sell it (sometime in the far future).

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Re: Swapping out Stainless Recurve Trigger
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 03:05:17 PM »
Stuart wrote:

if you do not need the overtravel stop, the CZ97 trigger is the old radius and fits the CZ75/SP01 series of guns. CZ-USA has these.

Thank you for this very important tip. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the old stock CZ97 triggers you mention are the exact same part, design, shape, size, level of finish etc. as my mid-90's to mid-2000's CZ75B triggers, and that they will just drop right inyo my newer CZ75B's with no fitting, or other issues. Thanks again!