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Offline tacx

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Tom from Michigan
« on: September 14, 2011, 02:52:05 PM »
Hi All,
I am Tom from Michigan. I served in the Army between 1966 and 1969. 529th MP Company. Stationed in Heidelberg, Germany. While there I had the opportunity to purchase a CZ pistol from the German or Czech police. They were getting new pistol and were selling there old ones. Not sure which police group because I didn't make the initial purchase.

Anyway, I would like to know as much as I can about the pistol and it's worth. Which forum would be best to post the details and photos to obtain any info.

Thanks

Tom


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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 03:20:05 PM »
Welcome Tom. If you know the model of the CZ, then you can find out more about it in it's corresponding pistol club. If not, please post pics and I'm sure someone here will recognize what you've got.

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 03:26:26 PM »
Welcome to the CZ forum.  There are some very knowledgeable folks here.  There are also a lot of us who don't really know %^&*.  Feel free to ask anyway.  If we don't know the answer, we'll just make something up.  ;D

BTW - Ma}{imus is right.  If you can post some pictures, or at least the model number, I am sure you will end up with plenty of information about your firearm.

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 05:08:20 PM »
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Offline tacx

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 05:10:14 PM »
Well typed up a bunch of info, but lost it all trying to upload some photos.

Can some one tell me how to get the photos uploaded??

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 05:35:11 PM »
You need to be able to link to the photos online. If you have a Flickr, Photobucket account, ect. you can put your photos up there and link them to your post. I personally use DropBox because I can keep things private and choose what to share with cyberspace.

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 05:28:05 AM »
Welcome from Australia mate.
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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 07:24:48 AM »
Welcome to the forum Tom.  I am looking forward to see the pics although I will probaly not recognise the weapon, it would still be interesting to see.

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 12:17:32 PM »
Hi All,
Here are pics and info regarding the pistol.

From what I have been able to reasearch so far I believe it is  CZ 26. The CZ 27 which apperently is the most common, has straight vertical grip groove on the slide. The 26 had angular grooves on the slide.  The 26 seems to have fallen into an era between the CZ22, the CZ24, and the CZ27. Here is some info regarding the markings on the pistol.

MARKINGS:

1. On the top of the slide = CESKA ZBROJOVKA  AS V PRAZE  46052 (and then a walking lion symbol)

2. On the right side of the frame = J (walking lion symbol) 27 CET (with a small v over the C) Then 46052

3. On the left side of the slide = CZ 26 (with a small v and A over the C and a very small symbol between the C and the Z)  Lokks as though the small A and the symbol between the C and the Z could be an uppward pointing arrow that didn't get stamped hard enough?

4. The barrel is seperate from the frame and I believe is called a rotating barrel. When I pull the slide back to cock the gun the barrel rotates about 1/4 turn.

5. It is a .380 ACP.

Here are some photos ( I hope )

http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/sharing/shareRedirectSwitchBoard.jsp?token=7601714330103%3A752020308

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 01:53:14 PM »
How many rounds does the mag hold?
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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 04:49:26 PM »
Mag. holds 8 rounds of .380 APC

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 12:56:15 PM »
At the first time I would like to mention, that CZ 26 never existed, although I know, that it is in some literature (Know your Czechoslovak pistol, I think). CZ army pistols were stamped not with the type, but with the year of production. 

This pistol is Czech army pistol vz. 24 in 9mm Browning.

1. On the top of the slide = CESKA ZBROJOVKA  AS V PRAZE  46052 (and then a walking lion symbol) - it means Czech armory j.s.c in Prague and Czech acceptance mark after the serial number.

2. On the right side of the frame = J (walking lion symbol) 27 CET (with a small v over the C) Then 46052
Another acceptance marking J with walking lion symbol (national Czech symbol) and ?ET - it is not CET with v, but ? is special Czech character which is pronounced in English as you pronounce Cz in Czech. ?ET means, that it was accepted by "?etnictvo" - Czechoslovak uniformed police forces since 1918 to 1945. So this gun was accepted by police in 1927.

3. On the left side of the slide = CZ 26 (with a small v and A over the C and a very small symbol between the C and the Z)  Lokks as though the small A and the symbol between the C and the Z could be an uppward pointing arrow that didn't get stamped hard enough?
?Z - ?esk? zbrojovka (Czech armory) with the arrow between ? and Z and the year of production of this pistol - 1926.

4. The barrel is seperate from the frame and I believe is called a rotating barrel. When I pull the slide back to cock the gun the barrel rotates about 1/4 turn.
5. It is a .380 ACP.

9mm Browning was an army caliber before the WWII.


There are some other pieces of CZ 24.


http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/12697/Pvz.24.jpg
http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/16927/CZ24_1.jpg - this picture shows pistol with the CZ 25, so it does not mean, that it is CZ 25...



« Last Edit: September 18, 2011, 12:55:29 AM by miguel »

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Re: Tom from Michigan
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 12:03:14 AM »
Hello Tom,

You are the owner of a CZ 24.  The CZ24 was a noticeably improved version of the CZ22 which was only produced for a couple of years.  In this improved form the new pistol (CZ24) was adopted by Czechoslovak army as Arm?dni pistole Vz.24, or Army pistol model 24.  Production began in 1924 and ended in about 1940.  An approximate total of 175,000 were manufactured.  Serial numbers began at 12,000 and went to 190,000.  The top of the slide should read: "CESKA ZBROJOVKA A.S. V PRAZE".  As you noted, the (J lion 27) is the military acceptance.  The grips shown in your photos appear to be original although it is hard to say from a photo.  I cannot say how much your pistol is worth, but have seen them for sale from $450 to $650.  YMMV.

Regards,


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