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Offline icelandismine

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Used CZ75 purchase
« on: March 05, 2012, 09:16:19 PM »
What should I keep an eye out if I'm buying one? It's a standard 75B, but is a 2004 and has an unknown number of rounds through it. There is some holster wear on the muzzle, but otherwise cosmetically is in very good shape.

Should I be worried about buying a shot out pistol? Or am I likely in good shape so long as it has rifling left?

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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 12:31:20 AM »
Is the gun at a shop or is this a private deal??

If the rifling is good and the gun seems tight then the deciding factor is what the price is....anywhere close to the price of a new CZ-75B then you might be better off with a new gun.

I've only bought 1 "used" one myself over the years...a LNIB one I found at a gun show for $375.00 a year or two ago



As you can see at that price it was worth the risk (1996 made gun), I doubt from the wear in the firing chamber it had seen 50-100 rounds before I bought it. When I saw your post tonite I compared the barrel to my 1997 one I bought new at the time that has 5000 rounds on the logbook and a CZ-85B I bought 2-3 years ago new with about 500 rounds through it ( lost some time shooting last year I need to make up  :D ) and I can't see any difference in the wear in the barrels.

Except for test 100 rounds of hollowpoint for feeding each (124gn Hydoshock) I normally run 115gn FMJ as as target ammo.

See what the price would be for a new one your area then decide.....

Offline rmcnelly

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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 07:32:27 AM »
I bought a Tactical Sports recently that the original owner believed he had shot close to 10,000 rounds through and it was completely stock, original springs and all.  It shoots like a dream and is easily the most accurate gun I have ever shot!

I also have a surplus CZ 82 which has been refinished but is otherwise stock.  It is got to be one of the nicest shooting guns I've ever owned.

I would be more concerned if someone had done any amateur gunsmithing rather than the gun wearing out.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 11:50:51 AM by rmcnelly »
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Offline Don Flynn

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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 09:25:40 AM »
I would be more concerned if someone had done any amateur gunsmithing rather than the gun wearing out.

Good point.....the one thing in his favor there is most CZ's sold tend to stay stock since there are few aftermarket options...there's no mag safety like a Browning Hi Power for someone to want to mess with (seen a couple mangled over the years)...worst case would be someone messing with the mag spring...

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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 09:57:17 PM »
I bought my 1st CZ 75BD (2003 Mfg date) with two ten round mags for $350.00 and it appeared (at the time of purchase) to have never been fired.  There was not a scratch on it, no chamber wear and it had the 'factory lube' smell in the action. 

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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 11:15:32 PM »
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the one thing in his favor there is most CZ's sold tend to stay stock since there are few aftermarket options...there's no mag safety like a Browning Hi Power for someone to want to mess with (seen a couple mangled over the years)...worst case would be someone messing with the mag spring...
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You must not read the "gunsmith" section or tips for changing virtually everything but the frame and barrel. O0 ;D
I not trying to be a spoiler here, a lightly used CZ is one with a looong life left in it.  Just wanted to warn you not to "assume" a CZ hasn't been worked.
Mine would scare you.  Might even scare ME once in a while. ;)

My 9mm CZ 75B has over 50K rds throught it, shoots better now than new--really.  It chrono's/shoots the same loads 20 FPS faster  than my son's much newer Shadow and is just as accurate.

Holster wear comes fast, and is not a real concern for function.  Look for bbl finish wear (mine is 'mostly' silver), feed ramp, slide or bbl looseness and function for all the controls as well as all trigger functions.  I think you CAN assume, MOST CZ 75Bs  haven't had significant mods from factory OE.

 

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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 11:47:46 PM »
Bought and/or sold over 15 CZ's in the last few years with no problems.
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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 02:50:00 PM »
What should I keep an eye out if I'm buying one? It's a standard 75B, but is a 2004 and has an unknown number of rounds through it. There is some holster wear on the muzzle, but otherwise cosmetically is in very good shape.

Should I be worried about buying a shot out pistol? Or am I likely in good shape so long as it has rifling left?

IMHO you are not taking on any serious risk especially if you study some of the really fine posts in the smithing/maintenance sections. A previous poster once said that he thought CZ owners were more likely to be do it yourselfers. I'm not sure if that generalization is true or not but in my case I acquired a used 75B in .40S&W.  First thing it needed was a new extractor spring.  I fixed it myself; it was easy to replace.  After that I replaced the firing pin spring, mag springs, and recoil spring. It was also straight forward with a lot of good procedural references in the stickies section.

I guess my point really is that the CZ75 series is infinitely restorable...like an old VW Beetle. It's fairly inexpensive to re-spring the entire gun if it needed it. Beyond a visual inspection shooting it from a good stable bench rest may give you some insight about the barrel and rifling condition.
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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 01:43:05 AM »
Should I be worried about buying a shot out pistol? Or am I likely in good shape so long as it has rifling left?

Barrel Life of a 9mm Service Handgun is typically between 17,000 and 25,000 rounds of Standard Ammunition.  Service Life of a typical 9mm Service Handgun is about 25,000 rounds.   Even before getting to that end, periodic Armorer replacement of worn Springs should have occurred.

If you feel the Springs in the subject CZ75 are worn and require service, expect that 7,000 to 9,000 rounds have probably been fired thru it.  Inspect the Barrel's Chamber and Rifling for wear using a Bore Light of some kind, noting any Wear in the rifling grooves and at the Chamber end/Rifling Beginning for any excessive wear.  CZ Barrels in particular tend to be very long lived and tend to last the life of the Handgun, unless improperly cleaned.

You are probably worried about buying a Gun with a lot of problems, but I would not worry much about it, as most problems can be simply fixed with the replacement of some minor parts.  But as I fix my own stuff, that's just me.
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Re: Used CZ75 purchase
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 03:11:27 AM »
Just curious,  has anyone personally known of a "shot-out" barrel in a  CZ 75B or SPO1?