CGW floating trigger pin not working correctly? Rami P

[Absorb]

Hi y'all, I hope someone has some insight on this problem. The trigger pin is walking out on my RAMI P. I installed the Cajun gun works floating trigger pin (TRPIN) and it didn't help my problem. The tigger doesn't function correctly and I really have to pull the trigger hard to get the hammer to drop. I know it's a floating pin but it doesn't make sense to me that this pin suppose to move around? It's not flush with the trigger pin hole and it moves when you pull the trigger, this has made the trigger not function properly because the pin is moving back and fourth. What am I missing here, do I need another part to go with this pin? Is this floating trigger pin not meant to work with the polymer model?

[Tok36]

The Floating Trigger Pin is retained by the tension of the Trigger Return Spring alone. I am not sure about the RAMI P compatibility. I would contact CGW directly.

[Absorb]

Hmm maybe that's it. I just order the return spring from CGW, thanks for the tip. Yeah, I did ask them already and they said it's compatible with the polymer model, so I don't know.

[cntrydawwwg]

Don’t think it rides flush with the frame. It kinda floats back and forth. Any other modifications done to the pistol?

[Rmach]

The floating pin will move to one side and pretty much stay there. It will never stay centered and that is normal.

[tdogg]

The floating trigger pin is held in place by the trigger return spring.  I'm not sure how wide the Rami P frame is but if it is wide like the alloy frame models then the floating pin will be recessed in the frame hole a bit when properly centered.  This will allow the trigger return spring to ride in the center of the floating pin (portion that is smaller in diameter) and the spring will hold the floating pin in place.

If you haven't properly centered the floating trigger pin in the frame then two things may be happening, the spring may not be in the recessed portion and thus not holding it roughly centered and one of the two sides of the actual trigger itself may not be on the fat portion of the floating trigger pin causing excessive play.

I don't own a Rami P but does it have the same oversized trigger pin as the Phantom (polymer SP01)?  CGW sells an oversized floating trigger pin for the Phantom specifically.  I'd call them and explain your specific model and situation.  I'd bet money they will make it right if in fact your Rami P needs the oversized pin.

Second question, is your Rami P frame bulged?  This was a known issue with that variant and CZ was honoring warranty well after it expired but I'm not sure they are anymore?  Can you host a picture of yours?  A video would also help troubleshoot your issue.

Cheers,
Toby

[Absorb]

The floating trigger pin is held in place by the trigger return spring.  I'm not sure how wide the Rami P frame is but if it is wide like the alloy frame models then the floating pin will be recessed in the frame hole a bit when properly centered.  This will allow the trigger return spring to ride in the center of the floating pin (portion that is smaller in diameter) and the spring will hold the floating pin in place.

If you haven't properly centered the floating trigger pin in the frame then two things may be happening, the spring may not be in the recessed portion and thus not holding it roughly centered and one of the two sides of the actual trigger itself may not be on the fat portion of the floating trigger pin causing excessive play.

I don't own a Rami P but does it have the same oversized trigger pin as the Phantom (polymer SP01)?  CGW sells an oversized floating trigger pin for the Phantom specifically.  I'd call them and explain your specific model and situation.  I'd bet money they will make it right if in fact your Rami P needs the oversized pin.

Second question, is your Rami P frame bulged?  This was a known issue with that variant and CZ was honoring warranty well after it expired but I'm not sure they are anymore?  Can you host a picture of yours?  A video would also help troubleshoot your issue.

Cheers,
Toby

Thanks Toby, and sorry I couldn't reply sooner.
So installed the Trigger Return Spring from CGW and now it seems to function fine in double action but in single action the trigger is up against the wall and only breaks with a lot of pressure. The pin still moves back and forward with the trigger pull.

1st point: Yeah the trigger pin is recessd a couple MM or so.

2nd point: The pin does appear to be centered in the recess.

3rd point: That I don't know, this is the first CZ I've ever had. I id reach out them about my problem and they told me it's suppose to fit the polymer model.

4th point: Yeah, it had a bulge unfortunately, I actually sent back it to CZ to fix the bulge, they fixed it and it no longer has a bulge. Man I wish I had noticed it when I purchased it or had done some research about the model beforehand, I definitely would have gone with the alloy model instead!       

I have a video, but didn't see a way to attach it, maybe it's because I'm a new member.

[Tok36]

I have a video, but didn't see a way to attach it, maybe it's because I'm a new member.

An outside hosting site is required. Youtube is a good option.

[Absorb]

I have a video, but didn't see a way to attach it, maybe it's because I'm a new member.

An outside hosting site is required. Youtube is a good option.

Here's the video
https://youtube.com/shorts/A6-lD7avkLc?feature=share

[tdogg]

That looks like the trigger pin is too loose in the frame.  I'm going to guess you need the larger pin for the phantom.  There shouldn't be that much play in the trigger pin period.

Do you have access to gauge pins or you have a decent drill bit set?  I would try to figure out the frame hole size and then talk to CGW about the slop in the trigger pin.  Tell them the frame hole size.   You may be able to use calipers to get the diameter as well.

Cheers,
Toby

[Absorb]

That looks like the trigger pin is too loose in the frame.  I'm going to guess you need the larger pin for the phantom.  There shouldn't be that much play in the trigger pin period.

Do you have access to gauge pins or you have a decent drill bit set?  I would try to figure out the frame hole size and then talk to CGW about the slop in the trigger pin.  Tell them the frame hole size.   You may be able to use calipers to get the diameter as well.

Cheers,
Toby

No guage pins, I only have a few small dill bits. I'll see if the calipers work.
So the CGW the CZ SP-01 Phantom trigger pin has a bigger diameter 2.5mm? is it also shorter?

[tdogg]

I don't own a Phantom but the trigger and trigger pin hole is larger than the standard 75 variants.  It's a total guess but maybe the polymer frame Rami P has the same larger trigger pin hole and associated trigger?  Any chance somebody bubba-smithed the frame hole on your Rami P?

Cheers,
Toby

[Absorb]

I don't own a Phantom but the trigger and trigger pin hole is larger than the standard 75 variants.  It's a total guess but maybe the polymer frame Rami P has the same larger trigger pin hole and associated trigger?  Any chance somebody bubba-smithed the frame hole on your Rami P?

Cheers,
Toby

What you're guessing makes sense since the pin is moving so much. I did buy the gun used so maybe, but It doesn't appear to be altered. My caliper isn't small enough to get a accurate reading so I'll have to get another one. I'm just going to order that pin and see what happens.