New IDPA rulebook.

[Jake G]

The 97b is considered a variation of the 75b, much like the Glock 34 is a variations of the Glock 17.  Therefore any factory part of a 75b family (including the sp-01) that is a drop in part on the 97b is legal.  The only two parts this really refers to is the extended lowered safety of the Shadow/75b SAO and the extended slide release of the sp-01 shadow.  I don't currently use either of these parts and probably won't as I have large enough hands/fingers to fit the slide release but I may experiment as time permits.

[IDescribe]

I think KPic24 was asking if the SP-01 Shadow was legal in SSP because of its extended controls.

KPic, the SP-01 Shadow has an annual production rate greater than 2,000, which means the SP-01 Shadow is its own factory standard model.  Its controls may be "extended" on a standard CZ-75, but on an SP-01 Shadow, those controls are production standard.

[Gryff]

Please remember that these rules are still in draft form. It's not written in stone until it shows up in the rule book on 10/1.

Here are some other interesting proposed changes:

• All striker fired guns will be legal in SSP (i.e. Glocks, XDs, M&Ps, etc. - this is a big change for XD shooters)
  
• Some changes in range commands. Shooter is expected to be ready within 15 seconds after Load and Make Ready command
• If shooting in the open on way to cover, you can initiate an emergency reload while in the open if you go dry
• Retention reloads renamed "Loaded Cylinder/Chamber Reloads," and officially prohibited from being mandated in scenario-type stages
• Changes to the number of reloads allowed on your belt, depending upon capacity of your mags (i.e. if using <8-round mags, you can now have three on your belt instead of the original two)
• Glocks can now run metal guide rods in SSP
• Classifier times modified. Most are minor changes, but SSP times dramatically changed to require you to shoot much faster to move up in class
• Big changes in how sanctioned matches are run, including a parroting of the USPSA appeals process (and the $100 appeal fee)

[IDescribe]

• All striker fired guns will be legal in SSP (i.e. Glocks, XDs, M&Ps, etc. - this is a big change for XD shooters)
  

Not just the XD's.  This will put the Walther PPQ in SSP, and that gun's striker is 100% cocked.  It's a single-action pistol.  The take up is just deactivating some safety devices. 

[Llamafood]

will the new rules allow the tactical sport into IDPA?

[Jake G]

No, the tac sport/ts will not fit the box.

[CZnewbe]

As I read the proposed rules, the SP-01 would be legal in SSP or ESP.  However, a SAO SP-01 would not be legal in ESP because of the full length dust cover (assuming it is over 3.25").  Moreover, because it is neither striker fired nor DA/SA it can't come in through the exemption that all SSP guns can be shot ESP.  Anyone read it differently?

[IDescribe]

SAO SP-01 would not be legal in ESP because of the full length dust cover (assuming it is over 3.25").  Moreover, because it is neither striker fired nor DA/SA it can't come in through the exemption that all SSP guns can be shot ESP.

Correct.  It's SAO, so it's not SSP legal.  And since it's not SSP legal, it doesn't get the exemption for the dust cover/rail in excess of 3.25" that is prohibited in ESP.

HOWEVER, how long is the dust cover/rail?  I plugged a pic of one into Photoshop and used the ruler against CZ's listed overall length for the SP-01, and it looks like the dust cover is right at 3.2 inches.  Someone with an SP-01 in hand should actually measure it, since obviously my method was nothing close to exact.  If it's under 3.25, you should be good to go.

[CZnewbe]

SAO SP-01 would not be legal in ESP because of the full length dust cover (assuming it is over 3.25").  Moreover, because it is neither striker fired nor DA/SA it can't come in through the exemption that all SSP guns can be shot ESP.

Correct.  It's SAO, so it's not SSP legal.  And since it's not SSP legal, it doesn't get the exemption for the dust cover/rail in excess of 3.25" that is prohibited in ESP.

HOWEVER, how long is the dust cover/rail?  I plugged a pic of one into Photoshop and used the ruler against CZ's listed overall length for the SP-01, and it looks like the dust cover is right at 3.2 inches.  Someone with an SP-01 in hand should actually measure it, since obviously my method was nothing close to exact.  If it's under 3.25, you should be good to go.

I'll be surprised if it doesn't exceed the 3.25" limit.  You need to measure from the rear of the slide stop pin.  If you do that with any CZ 75/85 and extend your ruler past the short dust cover towards the end of the barrel you'll see it blows past the limit.

[IDescribe]

Gotcha.  And there would be what got me -- where I should have measured from.


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[CZnewbe]

Gotcha.  And there would be the catch --  from where do you measure?

From the rear of the slide stop pin.