Choosing a clone for IDPA shooting

[Dogbarian]

I'm looking at purchasing one of the CZ clones, and would be using it primarily as a range gun and IDPA shooter.  It looks like the Stingray-C (the first clone I found, which led me here!) is the only model Stingray available, and I'd prefer a longer barrel.   The Witness and Sar B6 look like what I should be going after, is there any other models I should look at?  My other post asking about the Witness slides is because the ability to quickly switch to .22 would be nice, so the Witness may be more desirable. 

I plan on picking up a M&P Shield down the road as a carry piece, so the clone doesn't have to fill that role, although for IDPA, I'll need a concealable holster for the clone, availability of that may drive which one I purchase.   I'll probably use AIWB holsters for better conceal, so the longer barrel isn't a hindrance.

I look forward to your opinions!  Been reading this a while, some good info here...

[jwc007]

I've had great results with my Full Size Armscore MAP1 Full Size Steel, which is basicly a small frame Tanfoglio/Witness.  There is a Polymer framed version known as the MAPP1.  The Full Size Pistols might take the EAA .22 Conversions for the Small Frame Witness, if you can still get them. Check with EAA on that.

The SAR B6P is also an excellent choice in a full size Pistol and quite inexpensive, but an excellent value.  My LGS had them recently for $275 OTD.


Armscore/Tanfoglio MAP1 Full Size and Mid Size 9mm Pistols with Pachmayr Cz75 Grips and Mec-Gar AFC Cz75 17 round Magazines
If you buy one, junk the Factory Magazines and just use Mec-Gar Cz75B Magazines.


Full Size SAR B6P

[p4R4d0x]

I'm looking at purchasing one of the CZ clones, and would be using it primarily as a range gun and IDPA shooter.  It looks like the Stingray-C (the first clone I found, which led me here!) is the only model Stingray available, and I'd prefer a longer barrel.   The Witness and Sar B6 look like what I should be going after, is there any other models I should look at?  My other post asking about the Witness slides is because the ability to quickly switch to .22 would be nice, so the Witness may be more desirable. 

I plan on picking up a M&P Shield down the road as a carry piece, so the clone doesn't have to fill that role, although for IDPA, I'll need a concealable holster for the clone, availability of that may drive which one I purchase.   I'll probably use AIWB holsters for better conceal, so the longer barrel isn't a hindrance.

I look forward to your opinions!  Been reading this a while, some good info here...

If you like the Stingray-C but want a longer barrel, check out the Tristar P-120.  They're both made by Canik, both steel-frame, etc.  The P-120 is basically a larger, non-ambidextrous Stingray-C with slightly different aesthetics, and is more-or-less a clone of the CZ SP-01, so it should definitely work for you for range and IDPA.  I've seen people on arfcom using SP-01 holsters for the P-120, so holster availability shouldn't be too much hassle either.

I've owned 2 Stingray-C's (still have one of them and love it), and have a P-120 on its way to me in the mail.

[Brian Ahearn]

They have already given you some good ones we use all of them now for IDPA, but I will throw tow more at you the Canik 120 steel and the Sar B6poly full size all great shooters.

[bigmatt17073]

A lot of the clones can use various holsters designed for the CZ75, P01, or SP01 depending on which model of clone you pick up. But, you need to rethink you holster carry option. IDPA doesn't allow Appendix carry of any sort. Everyone carries IWB or OWB and it doesn't matter if you are "concealed" or not for competition. You need a cover garment that covers your holster and mags when your arms are horizontal. There are generally two types of people that do IDPA. 1) Those compete with their actual carry equipment 2)those that do it for what it is: a game. Carry practice is usually a IWB holster with maybe a t-shirt over for cover. Gamers run OWB with a light vest for the increase in speed.

[Smitty79]

Get a SAR K2 45 and shoot CDP 

Brian Ahearn, on this forum, does sights now and will soon offer trigger work.   I can't wait.   I'm going to have a gun that can shoot all 3 divisions.   With the right loads, it might even be competitive (Not that I am)

[Dogbarian]

A lot of the clones can use various holsters designed for the CZ75, P01, or SP01 depending on which model of clone you pick up. But, you need to rethink you holster carry option. IDPA doesn't allow Appendix carry of any sort. Everyone carries IWB or OWB and it doesn't matter if you are "concealed" or not for competition. You need a cover garment that covers your holster and mags when your arms are horizontal. There are generally two types of people that do IDPA. 1) Those compete with their actual carry equipment 2)those that do it for what it is: a game. Carry practice is usually a IWB holster with maybe a t-shirt over for cover. Gamers run OWB with a light vest for the increase in speed.

Yeah, I meant to go back and edit that, I got abbreviation happy.  I just meant inside the waistband (IWB), not appendix carry.   Sorry for that, but thanks for pointing it out.

And thanks to those of you that have chimed in so far!  I appreciate the info...