New CZ 75B Omega - back to the factory?

[CTDave]

 Hello everyone.  New to the forum and want to say what a great community this looks to be.  What's the saying - "If it wasn't for bad luck....."?  That's me.  Picked up a new (my first CZ) 75B Omega last week.  Love the fit, feel and functionality of it.  Broke it down, cleaned and lubed and just in the course of starting to work the action during this I noticed that the slide stop wouldn't engage cleanly every once in a while.  This continued to worsen to the point now where when you get it to hold, slight shaking of the gun releases the slide.  To pile on - with both (10 round) factory mags, rounds will not be stripped by just releasing the slide; they will only get pulled partially and jam the slide open.  They will strip by pulling slide back fully and releasing.  Even trying to thumb off rounds is an ordeal. (Took these apart, cleaned and lubed as well - same result).

I did take it to the range and agree with all of what has been said here - love shooting it.  CZ is closed for the holidays and inventory - but will plan to give them a call when they get back.
Happy Holidays.

[Googe1227]

Welcome to the forum from chicago! CZ will get it sorted out for you.

[rifmon]

I'm new here too and I'm waiting to pay off a brand new CZ 75B from Bud's.

I do remember reading somewhere (I THINK on this forum) that if you simply try to release the slide and hold it as it goes forward, the rnd may not chamber. This is not the intended action/ speed of the slide in real fire so I think that may not be a real issue.

You said that you went to the range and fired the gun? I am guessing there were no failures to go into battery which would be my concern if I noticed the same thing without knowing much yet about the CZ platform.
As far as the slide release being so touchy; yes. that may be an issue and from what I know about CZ, (I do own a CZ 452 Military Training rifle that I sent back for a burr on the sear) they are top notch in fast and effective service. Plus, I actually got to speak with the CZ gunsmith during my repair!  and I picked his brain on the CZ pistols too knowing I was going to buy one!

In the end, I trust you will be 100% satisfied..

and CONGRATS on your new CZ! 

[1SOW]

Dave,  I'm not familiar with the Omega pistols,  but if it's like the standard 75s:  did you check out the slide release spring wire?  Is it out of place or even broken?  That might be one thing that would cause the problem you describe.  Is it TOO "easy" to remove the slide release?  With the spring out only gravity holds the release in place.  If that's the problem and CZ will send you the spring wire,  it's easily replaceable.  This would put you back out to the range faster if so.

Good luck.

[CTDave]

Guys, thanks for the thoughts, and now my apologies....  I have been standing in the corner facing the wall with my dunce hat on debating whether to delete my account and run or fess up and face the music.... I keep telling my kids to do the right thing - so here goes.   

Turns out that if you are trying to set the slide stop its a good idea to use the correct lever - the slide stop lever ..... and - wait for it - not the slide release.   I don't know how I started doing it - my hand just naturally went there.  In my (meager) defense, the tech at the range who has been doing this a lot longer than me picked it up and tried to operate it the same way.  In looking into what 1SOW said about the slide stop spring - I just had one of those oh-no moments and got it.

Anyway - it is not the machine - its the operator.   Thank you again.   When you're telling your buddies this story.......be gentle.
Happy New Year.

[Keithandstef]

Guys, thanks for the thoughts, and now my apologies....  I have been standing in the corner facing the wall with my dunce hat on debating whether to delete my account and run or fess up and face the music.... I keep telling my kids to do the right thing - so here goes.   

Turns out that if you are trying to set the slide stop its a good idea to use the correct lever - the slide stop lever ..... and - wait for it - not the slide release.   I don't know how I started doing it - my hand just naturally went there.  In my (meager) defense, the tech at the range who has been doing this a lot longer than me picked it up and tried to operate it the same way.  In looking into what 1SOW said about the slide stop spring - I just had one of those oh-no moments and got it.

Anyway - it is not the machine - its the operator.   Thank you again.   When you're telling your buddies this story.......be gentle.
Happy New Year.

Not sure I follow you. So you were pushing the stop/release button in the wrong direction to activate the stop? I can't move mine in any direction but "up" until it's in the slide engaged position. Then it only moves down to release. Maybe the Omega has a second button from a standard 75B. Bottom line, on mine they are the same lever. Are they not on yours?

[CTDave]

(this post corrects an error in my last reply)


Guys, thanks for the thoughts, and now my apologies....  I have been standing in the corner facing the wall with my dunce hat on debating whether to delete my account and run or fess up and face the music.... I keep telling my kids to do the right thing - so here goes.   

Turns out that if you are trying to set the slide stop its a good idea to use the correct lever - the slide stop lever ..... and - wait for it - not the safety release.   I don't know how I started doing it - my hand just naturally went there.  In my (meager) defense, the tech at the range who has been doing this a lot longer than me picked it up and tried to operate it the same way.  In looking into what 1SOW said about the slide stop spring - I just had one of those oh-no moments and got it.

Anyway - it is not the machine - its the operator.   Thank you again.   When you're telling your buddies this story.......be gentle.
Happy New Year.

[CTDave]

Keithandstef - you were too quick.  I typo'd in my post.  I was pushing the safety release up to try to hold the slide.  I know - but that's what I was doing.....

[Bret]

While you can use a slide stop to release the slide of most pistols, I'd recommend just pulling the slide back to the rear and letting it go to chamber a cartridge.  It's easier to master a gross motor skill than a fine motor skill and it easily applies to all pistols.  I never use a slide top to release the slide.

[1SOW]

I do the same as Bret on an initial load.  On a tactical reload,  I do a firm insert that is exactly the same as manually releasing the slide.
The need to do this at all,  isn't a good thing.  Planning "when" to reload with a round still in the chamber is a better thing.

For the first rd loaded manually,  I do believe sling-shotting the slide is the best way to get the most reliable cartridge insert into the chamber.  This is the same maximum force the pistol uses to feed the next rd..

[Keithandstef]

Keithandstef - you were too quick.  I typo'd in my post.  I was pushing the safety release up to try to hold the slide.  I know - but that's what I was doing.....

As I recall, I needed help opening the CZ gun case the first time I purchased said weapon. I couldn't figure it out that there was a big "push" written near the handle. 'Sigh'. At least you figured out things on your own. The gun store owner let me flail about for far too long. Never hurts to ask either.

[Coastwatcher]

Nobody was born knowing how to operate these things,  it is a learned skill.    Practice, practice, practice.

Happy New Years from the Frozen North.

CW

[cntrydawwwg]

It takes a lot to admit that it was you. Now you know it's not the pistol, so practice, practice, and go shoot and enjoy. [emoji2] We've all made mistakes, even those that don't admit it. [emoji6]

[1SOW]

No apology needed.
Be glad the pistol is ready for the range and that you learned from the experience. 
" Now where did that dad blasted trigger spring fly too":  VERY FAMOUS CZ DIY  home gunsmithing statement...along with some other unprintable terms used. 

[JDL]

Glad you found your problem before returning for repair CTDave. My Omega trigger has really improved after firing 500 or so rounds. A friend had the works done to a standard trigger but, mine is almost as good as his and I only had to buy ammo to smooth it out!