Author Topic: '93 CZ85 Type A (Pre-B) => USPSA/IDPA (Production/SSP/ESP)  (Read 1858 times)

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Offline RoundEye

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'93 CZ85 Type A (Pre-B) => USPSA/IDPA (Production/SSP/ESP)
« on: June 07, 2015, 12:42:02 PM »
Im interested in to taking my '93 CZ 85 Type A (Pre-B) to her full potential as a USPSA Production Gun, IDPA SSP/ESP gun.

I recently spen some time on the phone with the fine people at Automatic Accuracy, who said they could essentially make it into one of their SP01 Shadows with the Jackson package in about 4-6 weeks at a cost of $755 depending on what options I chose.  I was told the hard part would be the front sight is that nobody really makes the stake on kind anymore, so they would have to most likely mill a dovetail in it to get it to accept a FO type of sight.  Also, not much can be done about the factory safety, so that will need to remain.

Modifications would include:

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An excerpt from AAs website regarding the Jackson Package:

-Race trigger job with CZ Custom competition hammer, 13# mainspring, internal work and polishing, shortened trigger reset, 6.5# DA, 2# SA . This is the heart and soul of an Automatic Accuracy tuned Shadow. Each pistol is carefully polished internally, along with their internal custom work on certain areas, and the factory hammer is replaced with a CZ Custom competition hammer. The result is a smooth double action, and a light rolling break on single action. Longevity is also fantastic. Some customers have reported their CZ pistols went over 90K rds on this setup, and were still going strong.

-CZ Custom short reset trigger system installed. This upgrade makes the pretravel on single action minimal, allowing for much more accurate shooting at speed.

-CZ Custom extended firing pin and factory reduced power firing pin spring. This is purely a reliability upgrade. The extended firing pin will ensure that your tuned Shadow will eat almost any type of ammo. I primarily shoot hard Tula primers in my Shadows with zero issues.

-Reliability package - polished feed ramp, breechface, cartridge rail, and a cut slide stop.

-Your choice of front and fixed rear sights - CZ Custom fiber front, Dawson fiber front, Plain black front, CZ Custom fixed competition or tactical rear sight. The major difference between the two rear sight options, is that the tactical has the corners milled off, and the competition is perfectly rectangular.

-Your choice of grips - VZ's, CZ Aluminums, CZ Custom Aluminums, etc. This allows you to choose whether you want thin, thick, rough texture, no texture, red, blue, green or pink. The choices of grips are pretty extensive. Let us know what you are looking for, and we can lead you in the right direction.

-Your choice of safeties. You have three choices here.

Wide - These are the factory shadow safeties. They sit lower, and are wide almost like a 1911. These are great for shooters that shoot 1911's or 2011's.

Small - The small safeties are the factory safeties from the regular SP-01 or 85 Combat. They ride a little higher, and aren't nearly as wide as the shadow safety. These are popular for folks looking to get a little higher grip on the gun. They are very comfortable.

Thin - The thin safeties are the factory safeties from the subcompact gun, the 2075 RAMI. They are virtually non existent on the side of the gun, and are popular with folks transitioning from polymer guns like Glocks and M&P's.

-Your choice of triggers - Black SP-01, 75B, 85 Combat new or old, etc.... This is an important option. If you typically find yourself having trouble reaching the trigger on a DA/SA gun, the Black SP01 trigger is probably the best fit. The 85 combat old style is a beefier trigger with a little longer reach. That is a great option for bigger hands. The newest trigger available is the Shadow Line trigger and it is a phenomenally shaped trigger that is very easy on the finger.

I guess what I am looking for is any thoughts and/or opinions/preferences on any of the above or this proposed project.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2015, 07:07:15 PM by RoundEye »

Offline ss

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Re: '93 CZ85 Type A (Pre-B) => USPSA/IDPA (Production/SSP/ESP)
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 11:30:56 PM »
I did a lot of reading about these modifications and there are tons of threads on doing it yourself. It is the difference between $755 and $250. The end result is more satisfaction and money in your pocket. I couldn't be happier with my 85.

Offline Jake G

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Re: '93 CZ85 Type A (Pre-B) => USPSA/IDPA (Production/SSP/ESP)
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 12:21:56 AM »
I can't speak for production in uspsa but it won't be ssp legal in IDPA if you cut a new dovetail front sight.  ESP would be fine. My thoughts are do all the research on here and do the work yourself. I started with YouTube videos and went slow. Now it doesn't take me long at all to work over an entire gun and get it up and running for competition.  The price quoted is almost enough to buy a new 85 combat and all the parts to make it race ready if you have the time and patience to do the job yourself. Or find one of the 75 transitionals coming in from Isreal that has all of the B features (including sights) but is minus the firing pin block and have at it.