P-07 and P-09 grip questions

[ccjcc81]

I've recently become interested in the P-07 and P-09, and I have some questions about the grips.  Which size backstrap comes installed on the P-07 gen 2 and P-09 from the factory?  Which of the 3 backstraps is closest to the fixed grip of the P-07 Duty?

I ask because I have small hands, and some double stack semi-autos, even 9mms, can be too large for comfortable shooting.  Today I got to briefly handle a P-07 Duty, but it was so brief that I really didn't get a feel for it.  I did notice that the pad of my finger rested on the top of the highly-curved trigger, and that was annoying.  I went to another gun shop, and handled a P-09, and learned that the flat style trigger feels much better.  I didn't get a chance to find out which backstrap was installed on it.  It felt pretty good, but if the medium grip panel is installed from the factory, then that means that there's a smaller one, which would definitely suit me better.  I'm trying to decide whether or not to order one of these based on that limited experience, so any advice you guys can provide is greatly appreciated. 

Thanks. 

[Earl Keese]

I've read that they come with the medium installed. That being said, the duty grip is said to be the size of the medium. I noticed that P-07 +2 mag bases don't fit the contour of the 09 grip. I haven't had a chance to put a caliper on them to see how much different they are.

[viking499]

I thought the same thing when I got my 07, that the small insert would fit my hands better.  I tried the small, but went back to the medium.  The small was too small for me.

[TheChatman]

I recently bought a P-09 FDE. It came with the small installed. I tried all three back straps and am happy with the medium. I have average size hands.

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[Cyanide]

I have very small hands myself and find that the Duty model fits perfectly. The "2014" P-07 I bought a couple of years ago came with the medium installed (I switched to the small), whereas the P-09 MHS came with the small installed.

[ccjcc81]

Thanks guys.  Good info.

[M1A4ME]

Could I suggest something to try?

Using what ever back strap you have on the pistol..

Raise it up, just as you would to fire it (make sure it's empty first) and put the sights on the target, with the target straight in front of you.  Do the sights line up with each other on the target without you having to search for that front sight and align it?

Next, raise it up as you would to fire it (still empty) and put the sights on the target, but a target off to the left, or right (45 degrees or so), try ground level, too.  Do the sights line up with each other on the target without you having to search for the front sight and align it?

I ran into this with my M&Ps.  I first tried out all the back straps till I found the one that felt best in my hand.  Then, one day while dry firing, I noticed that if I brought the pistol up, aimed it just about anywhere but straight in front of me, I had to hunt for the front sight.  The pistol did no point "naturally" for me.  Straight ahead and level (like at the range), it's fine.  In a self defense situation, the target might not be straight ahead and level and I didn't feel I would have time to "find" that front sight.

It's all in how it fits your hand I suppose.  A muscle memory thing with alignment.  But, why have the pistol set up so that your grip, or the way your point the pistol has to be different based on target location/angle/elevation?  I want mine to be the same every time.  The 1911 does that for me.  The M&Ps after I put the right back strap into them.  My P07 and P09 do that (old DUTY P07 and P09 with the medium back strap).