Should I? P-09 w/RDS

[Raining_Brass]

I assume that's the setup on M1A4ME's P-09 slide??

I could live with that.

Correct, that has become a very popular option we've been doing on various CZ model slides as well as M&P's and a few others.

[M1A4ME]

For what it's worth, I questioned the placement of the rear sight, in front of the RMR.

The first place I saw red dots on slides was one where they promoted glocks and RMRs on glocks and they placed the rear sight behind the RMR (just like the BUIS on my AR15 is behind the optic.)  That seemed "normal/right."

On the other website folks "made fun" of putting the rear back up sight in front of the RMR vs. behind the RMR.  Various reasons were given.

I "talked" with Primary Machine by e-mail a few times before deciding to have my P09 done.  Face it, the purchase of the RMR and the work totaled more than the cost of the P09.  Putting the back sight closer to the ejection port was different than what I was used to seeing.

I can say now, after some dry firing and that one range trip (hope to change that to two range trips today) that the back up sight in front of the RMR is no issue for me.  I was told (on the other forum) that the RMR would make it hard to see the back up iron sight.  It does not.  If the BUIS was behind the RMR does it make it hard to see the RMR?  No.  The BUIS is the same size regardless of placement, so the amount of RMR lens it obscures is the same = no issue for me.

I do believe the BUIS placed in front of the RMR adds some protection for the lens, being between the lens of the RMR and the ejection port.  If I ever see a brass strike mark, or wipe powder residue off the BUIS I'll know that those would have been on the lens if not for being deflected by the BUIS.

I'm not a guy who spends money easily.  Most folks would consider me pretty cheap.  I never bought an Aimpoint till I found one on sale for $280 at a vendor.  I haven't bought another one.  I didn't buy and RMR till I found a couple on sale for $399 at a vendor.  I like clearance sales.  It wasn't easy for me to convince myself to spend the money to have the P09 machined and the new sights installed.  Once I got it to the range and shot it, I'm sold on it.  I just mailed out my P07 side to Primary Machine yesterday for the same work (different slide color). 

I'm sold on it.

[Joe L]

On the Burris, there is some optical distortion in the lens.  I'd rather have the distortion affect the view of both the front and the rear sight at the same time.  I thought the rear sight in front of the dot was quite a novel idea.  Yes, you give up some sight radius, but the irons aren't your primary sights anyway.

I thought a red dot offset 45 degrees on an AR looked weird, until I saw it in use and thought about it a little.   

Joe

[Winkel]

For what it's worth, I questioned the placement of the rear sight, in front of the RMR.

The first place I saw red dots on slides was one where they promoted glocks and RMRs on glocks and they placed the rear sight behind the RMR (just like the BUIS on my AR15 is behind the optic.)  That seemed "normal/right."

On the other website folks "made fun" of putting the rear back up sight in front of the RMR vs. behind the RMR.  Various reasons were given.

I "talked" with Primary Machine by e-mail a few times before deciding to have my P09 done.  Face it, the purchase of the RMR and the work totaled more than the cost of the P09.  Putting the back sight closer to the ejection port was different than what I was used to seeing.

I can say now, after some dry firing and that one range trip (hope to change that to two range trips today) that the back up sight in front of the RMR is no issue for me.  I was told (on the other forum) that the RMR would make it hard to see the back up iron sight.  It does not.  If the BUIS was behind the RMR does it make it hard to see the RMR?  No.  The BUIS is the same size regardless of placement, so the amount of RMR lens it obscures is the same = no issue for me.

I do believe the BUIS placed in front of the RMR adds some protection for the lens, being between the lens of the RMR and the ejection port.  If I ever see a brass strike mark, or wipe powder residue off the BUIS I'll know that those would have been on the lens if not for being deflected by the BUIS.

I'm not a guy who spends money easily.  Most folks would consider me pretty cheap.  I never bought an Aimpoint till I found one on sale for $280 at a vendor.  I haven't bought another one.  I didn't buy and RMR till I found a couple on sale for $399 at a vendor.  I like clearance sales.  It wasn't easy for me to convince myself to spend the money to have the P09 machined and the new sights installed.  Once I got it to the range and shot it, I'm sold on it.  I just mailed out my P07 side to Primary Machine yesterday for the same work (different slide color). 

I'm sold on it.

I'm right there with you M1.  I usually buy about a gun a year so most of my fun budget is spent on ammo or reloading supplies.
Since we're not getting any younger, I'm thinking seriously about doing the RMR next year in stead of buying another one.  I'm having more trouble getting a clear sight picture on the ole irons.  I have an SP-01 Tactical on order now so it is the gun I'm considering for future modification.  It makes sense since it will be my range toy/night stand gun. 

In my opinion, it's too big and heavy for concealed carry and I have others better suited to that.  I also know that I'll be spending about the same money as buying another gun so that's why it's my plan for NEXT year.

Thanks for sharing this with us!  Keep us updated from time to time about how much you love it!
Winkel