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nickel plated brass or just brass?

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Offline brandnewcz

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need help with ammo type
« on: February 15, 2017, 09:38:38 PM »
I have a  (CZ 2075 RAMI) and a (CZ 75 SP-01) .... I was wondering if Nickel Plated Brass are recommended for these two guns because I have bought some Federal 150gr nickel plated brass a few days ago. I haven't read the manual of the two guns(i know I should) However, let me know if 150gr nickel plated brass are okay with the guns. Or should I strictly go with ONLY BRASS?

This is the ammo I bought recently====>>> https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/1939-federal-personal-defense-9mm-luger-150gr-hst-jhp.html?affiliates=17889

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2017, 09:50:22 PM »
A bit spendy but the brass vs nickel doesn't matter. I would do a plunk test to make sure it doesn't hang up due to length or ogive.
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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2017, 09:59:42 PM »
A bit spendy but the brass vs nickel doesn't matter. I would do a plunk test to make sure it doesn't hang up due to length or ogive.

The only reason I asked because I was taught never use steel ammo in any American firearm. So I'm confused with the nickel plated material to my ammunition knowledge.

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 10:01:43 PM »
Nickel plated brass is common treatment for high-end ammunition. Like Larry said, a bit pricey, but if you can find it and afford it, then shoot it.

It makes absolutely no difference to or for the gun.

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 10:07:36 PM »
Nickel plated brass is common treatment for high-end ammunition. Like Larry said, a bit pricey, but if you can find it and afford it, then shoot it.

It makes absolutely no difference to or for the gun.

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Yeah they are pricey ammo. I only load them up for home protection. When I go to the range, I use the cheaper ammo. But, I take you guys word into consideration. I thought I asked because I don't want to damage the guns. I like forum. It gives me the opportunity to hear it from different people. Thanks.

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 10:08:36 PM »
The only reason I asked because I was taught never use steel ammo in any American firearm.


Never heard that one before.

So I'm confused with the nickel plated material to my ammunition knowledge.


I think it originally started when ammo was kept in leather holsters. The nickel coating kept the brass from corroding due to chemicals in the leather. Now it's mostly a way to keep the ammo in usable form, no matter how long or where it's stored. It's typically only found on law enforcement grade ammo.

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 10:10:23 PM »
I only load them up for home protection. When I go to the range, I use the cheaper ammo.

Meaning of "load them up" not clear. Load factory ammo into the magazine OR reload the nickel plated cases.  ???

For purposes of reloading, nickel plated is not going to last as long as plain brass. And case lubrication is highly recommended.
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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 10:25:55 PM »
Sure are pretty!  :)

AND like wobbly said,   they stay that way for a very long time when stored--no corrosion
 
« Last Edit: February 16, 2017, 10:45:33 PM by 1SOW »

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 10:28:25 PM »
I only load them up for home protection. When I go to the range, I use the cheaper ammo.

Meaning of "load them up" not clear. Load factory ammo into the magazine OR reload the nickel plated cases.  ???

For purposes of reloading, nickel plated is not going to last as long as plain brass. And case lubrication is highly recommended.

My apology.  What I meant was I insert expensive ammo into my guns at home, and I use cheaper ammo at the range.

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2017, 11:23:48 PM »
Nickel plated brass is common treatment for high-end ammunition. Like Larry said, a bit pricey, but if you can find it and afford it, then shoot it.

It makes absolutely no difference to or for the gun.

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Yeah they are pricey ammo. I only load them up for home protection. When I go to the range, I use the cheaper ammo. But, I take you guys word into consideration. I thought I asked because I don't want to damage the guns. I like forum. It gives me the opportunity to hear it from different people. Thanks.
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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2017, 07:56:41 AM »
The nickel plated brass is brass cases with nickel plating.  Not steel cases with nickel plating.

In the "old days" of carrying your spare/extra ammo in the leather cartridge loop belts or in dump pouches, or even in speed loader pouches, the brass cases would corrode (pretty, or not so pretty, depending on your view) green color of corrosion called verdigras (never looked it up to see why it was called that) and it could build up enough to keep you from being able to insert the cartridge into the cylinder of your (police/personal) revolver.  You needed to take the cartridges out and wipe them off/keep them clean on a regular basis.  The nickel plating was more resistant to corrosion from contact with leather.

Most of us would find it hard to believe but I've seen this with my own eyes back in the early 80's when I was in LE.  I've seen an officer open up his dump pouch and dump 6 rounds of .38 specials into his hand that were absolutely green with corrosion.  I've seen an officer try to get his revolver cylinder open and then finally walk over to a brick wall and smack the cylinder on the brick to pop it open, it had been so long since he'd properly cleaned/lubed it that the either the cylinder latch wasn't working properly or the crane had rusted into the frame.

In today's semi autos this probably isn't as important since the spare cartridges are in a magazine in a pouch that is probably nylon or kydex instead of leather, so no cartridge/case contact with leather equals little or no corrosion over time vs. the "old days".

If you're the type who allows his gun/magazines/cartridges to linger to the point of not being usable without doing proper inspection/cleaning/lubrication you probably shouldn't be in LE or allowed to own/carry a fire arm.  You're more of a danger to yourself and others armed than unarmed.  Just my opinion, but it seems to be a good one.
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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2017, 09:01:01 AM »
147gr HST worked fine in my P-07, I haven't seen the 150gr until now. If I was the OP, I'd be sure to plunk test as always and test at the range for reliable function in both CZ's. I keep HST in all of our carry and HD guns. 124gr for CZ's and 147gr for the G43.

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2017, 09:11:27 AM »
And I like what Hornady says about nickle plated cases, "All Critical Defense? ammunition is loaded in nickel cases for increased visibility in low-light situations". :o

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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2017, 08:05:50 AM »
My apology.  What I meant was I insert expensive ammo into my guns at home, and I use cheaper ammo at the range.


That's what everyone does, isn't it ??
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Re: need help with ammo type
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2017, 09:50:37 PM »
My apology.  What I meant was I insert expensive ammo into my guns at home, and I use cheaper ammo at the range.



That's what everyone does, isn't it ??


Yeeess,  although when I get my "less expensive" , primers,  bullets and powders,  I mentally go through the math to confirm "I AM saving money...I am saving moneyI am s...........
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