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Offline ReloaderFred

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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2017, 10:35:31 PM »
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You may not save as much as you think. Especially after you discover that 10mm dies also reload 40S&W. So then you need to go buy a 40 cal gun for the collection, because the bullets and dies are interchangeable. Then you need to buy a 45ACP, because you already have large primers from the 10.

The "savings" simply never end !

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There's no need for a .40, since you can load down for that, just like the FBI did, which is what resulted in the .40 S&W in the first place in 1991....

And did you know there is 10mm brass made with small pistol primer pockets?  Yep!  They're Federal Non-Toxic, and I've got about 500 of them.  I convert them to 9x25 Dillon, and they seem to work just fine for that.  I figured if they could make the .400 Cor-Bon with SP primers, then it should work for the 9x25 Dillon as well...

Hope this help.

Fred
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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2017, 10:49:54 PM »
This is all fantastic!

Ha! Someone with a 9x25 Dillon! How is it converting the brass? And how is it shooting those bad boys? What do you shoot them out of?

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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2017, 12:06:15 AM »
It's easy to convert 10mm brass to 9x25 Dillon.  All it takes is one pass through the 9x25 sizing die.  I'll lose a case once in awhile to wrinkling, but not very often.  The key is using either new brass, or brass that has been fired no more than once, so it won't be work hardened.

I have two pistols in 9x25 Dillon, a Witness and a 1911, which has been fitted with a compensator to take advantage of the gasses it produces.  With the compensated pistol, there's hardly any muzzle rise at all.  I limit my loads to 115 gr. bullets in this caliber, and they're stepping out at just under 1,600 fps.  It shoots very flat at 100 yards, and it's amazing how much penetration you can get with a 115 gr. FMJ bullet........

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Fred
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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2017, 12:53:56 AM »
It's easy to convert 10mm brass to 9x25 Dillon.  All it takes is one pass through the 9x25 sizing die.  I'll lose a case once in awhile to wrinkling, but not very often.  The key is using either new brass, or brass that has been fired no more than once, so it won't be work hardened.

I have two pistols in 9x25 Dillon, a Witness and a 1911, which has been fitted with a compensator to take advantage of the gasses it produces.  With the compensated pistol, there's hardly any muzzle rise at all.  I limit my loads to 115 gr. bullets in this caliber, and they're stepping out at just under 1,600 fps.  It shoots very flat at 100 yards, and it's amazing how much penetration you can get with a 115 gr. FMJ bullet........

Hope this helps.

Fred

Fred needs to change his name to  ROD(Rad Old Dude) O0

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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2017, 01:00:40 AM »
Did you send a 9mm barrel to a gunsmith for your witness? Now that I have the platform for it I'm really interested for a long term project.

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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2017, 02:38:01 AM »
The Witness conversion is a sad story.  I have the 9x25 Dillon chamber reamer, so I sent it and an extra .38 Super Witness barrel to a gunsmith to have it rechambered.  He didn't chamber it straight, and the chamber came back egg shaped.  Then I sent the reamer and a second .38 Super barrel to another gunsmith for rechambering, but he went too deep with the reamer and ruined a second barrel.....

I finally came up with a third .38 Super barrel and rechambered it myself, being very careful not to go too deep with the reamer.  At the time, I had an old bench lathe that I didn't have a motor for, so I chucked everything up in the lathe and turned it by hand, getting several big blisters on my turning hand in the process, even though I was wearing a glove.  At least I ended up with what I wanted, and learned that just because a person has a "gunsmith" shingle hanging out, that doesn't necessarily make them a gunsmith.

The 1911 was purpose built to be a 9x25 Dillon by a friend who is actually a gunsmith, among other things.  I had purchased a 9x25 barrel and the compensator on ebay, and he built the pistol around that.

I used the .38 Super barrels because I had a couple extra ones (the ones that were ruined) for the large frame Witness.  When I had this done, EAA was still selling both the large and small frame Witnesses, with the small frame being the 9x19 and .40 S&W calibers, and the large frame being the .38 Super, 10mm and .45 calibers.  It was only later that they started importing the large frame in all the calibers.

I also rechambered a 9x19 barrel to 357 Sig, so I have a Witness in that caliber, too, along with one in 9x21, plus all the regular calibers the Witness is offered in.  I have them in .22 LR, 9x19, 9x21, 9x23 Winchester, 357 Sig, 9x25 Dillon, .38 Super, .40 S&W, 10mm, .41 AE and .45 acp.  The Witness is a good platform, easy to work on and fits my hand better than most pistols.  The only other pistols that I have that fit as well are my Springfield XD's. (9x19, 357 Sig, .40 S&W and .45 acp)

Hope this helps.

Fred
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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2017, 09:32:25 AM »
Dang Fred! I was hoping to hear something like, "it wasn't bad, get a barrel and send it to _____". It definitely seems like a great clone and has a lot of caliber potential.

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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2017, 06:33:31 PM »
It is an easy conversion, but your biggest hurdle is going to be finding a gunsmith who has the chamber reamer.  You can get extra .38 Super barrels on either ebay or directly from EAA, but the latter want's an arm and a leg for all their parts........

The 9x25 uses 10mm magazines, and I prefer MecGar magazines myself.  They make the OEM, but can often be found much cheaper through sources other than EAA.

Hope this helps.

Fred
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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2017, 07:03:31 PM »
It is an easy conversion, but your biggest hurdle is going to be finding a gunsmith who has the chamber reamer.  You can get extra .38 Super barrels on either ebay or directly from EAA, but the latter want's an arm and a leg for all their parts........

The 9x25 uses 10mm magazines, and I prefer MecGar magazines myself.  They make the OEM, but can often be found much cheaper through sources other than EAA.

Hope this helps.

Fred
It definitely does help, thank you! I'll slowly start to look for a smith who can do this once I get my 10mm reloading component set up and working.

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Re: Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2017, 07:38:42 PM »
Don't forget to figure in the cost of the reloading dies, since they're expensive.  Dillon sells them for $139.95 for the 3 die set.  There may be other suppliers, but I'm not aware of them off the top of my head.

Hope this helps.

Fred
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