New P-09 experiencing failures to feed

[Mifune326]

Hi all,

Took my new P-07 and P-09 to the range today to put some rounds down range.  P-07 shot great.  However, my P-09 had numerous failures to feed (I was using Speer-CCI 124 hr FMJ) during chambering of the first round (using the slide stop and slingshotting the slide) as well as during the firing cycle.  Also, I was unable to chamber a round and then insert a full 19 round magazine.  The full magazine would not seat properly.  These are my first issues with any of the 4 CZ pistols I own.  Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I?m thinking it might have to go back to CZ to let them have a look-see?

Chris

[Raining_Brass]

Well lubed prior to shooting? Did you clean off the factory gunk sometimes on them? This is generally the number one cause of malfunctions on pretty much any pistol. IF the gun was indeed lubed properly, I'd personally just put another couple hundred rounds through it and see if it loosens up a bit.

As far as seating a full mag on a closed slide, it's pretty normal to be hard to get them to seat when the mag is brand new. Either load them down to 18 when inserting on closed slide or simply give the mags some time to break in and they'll seat fine over time.

[Mifune326]

Thank you Brass.  Was well lubed and clean.  I agree with 100% of what you stated.  I was just very surprised to see my P-09 experiencing malfunctions tho.  All of my other CZ pistols have been rock solid reliable.   In any event, I contacted CZ-USA and they told me it could be a burr on the feed ramp or an extractor that is a little too tight.  They suggested I send it in.

[M1A4ME]

You get one now and then.  I've bought a good sized box of CZ pistols in the last 5 years.  Mostly of them new.  Only the Urban Grey P01 has had issues.  Every now and then a round would just hang part of the way up the feed ramp.  Fingernail rub "found" a sort of line/gouge in the feed ramp that I couldn't see, but I could catch with my finger nail.  A dremel, a felt wheel and some polishing compound removed that black finish on the ram and the spot I could feel.  No issues like that since the ramp was polished.

Sometimes you get one that isn't as good as the rest.  Most of the time it can be taken care of once you identify what is causing it.

Good luck with it.  Having a gun that doesn't work right is a real pain in the (you know what).

[briang2ad]

They suggested I send it in.

Yes - doesn't sound right and CZ CS is quite good.  They will make it right.

[Mifune326]

Totally understand.  They're tools and machines.  Sometimes stuff happens.  Like briang2ad said, I'm sure CZ will come through and make it right. 

[DOC 1500]

Polish the feed ramp with a felt wheel on a Dremel. I had many similar problems before I took it apart and Polished it now it runs flawlessly. You got to break it in, and or disassemble polish reassemble, it'll get better.

[Kelsw]

Other people have had issues loading the p-09 mag with 19 rounds try loading just 18 and see if that works . I noticed that trying to load 19 rounds was really tight and binding . They say it's a 19 round mag but I think that is pushing it . I tried loading 19 even with a maglula was difficult and not sure I did . I know I got 18 in for sure .

[Mifune326]

I agree, the feed ramp is most likely the problem.  I'm gonna return it to CZ and let them handle it just in case the feed ramp is not the issue.

And yes, downloading the mag to 18 definitely makes it easier for the mag to seat.

[M1A4ME]

With new magazines they can be really difficult to fully load.

I always fill it up (yes, the maglula is the answer, I've bought one for everyone in the family) and let them sit for a week.  After that they are a little easier to load up.

[Mifune326]

"With new magazines they can be really difficult to fully load.

I always fill it up (yes, the maglula is the answer, I've bought one for everyone in the family) and let them sit for a week.  After that they are a little easier to load up."

Ah I see.

[Winkel]

I left mine downloaded by one round for about a year.  They are easier to load to the max now that the mag springs have relaxed a little.  My P-09 has been the most flawless of my 5 CZ pistols.  And I shoot it the most.

[stater61]

Before I sent it in I would try a different magazine, just in case, if you haven't already. Maybe not the problem but entirely possible.

A different magazine may or may not fix the feeding issue but all the 19 rd mags I have are hard to seat when loaded to max. They are better after having set for some time fully loaded, but still require a solid push to insert.

[Joe L]

Mifune--The suggestions above for the feeding problem are all good.  I would add one thing to at least check before sending the gun in.  Remove the barrel and recoil spring from the slide and then put the slide on the frame and move it through its normal range of motion that it sees in operation.  Is there any resistance from the polymer frame?   Any rubs on the slide that would slow the slide down?  If so, trim the interference away with an X-Acto knife until the slide moves freely.  This is probably NOT your problem, but I did have this happen on my first P-09.  You might just check yours. 

Joe

[Mifune326]

Thank you stater and Joe for your suggestions.  I did try my extra mag also and had the same issue with it.   And Joe, I'll definitely give your suggestion a try and see if this sheds light on the problem.  Thank you.