New Orleans long guns?

[Unregistered(d)]

Watching the chaos in NO, I noticed many many people carrying long guns there, as the concealability of a handgun becomes less necessary, and the lethality of a rifle or shotgun become more necessary. The wife has her Yugo SKS - I'd have one if I had any more $, but I do have my Mosin M38, and I am betting one round out of the carbine sized howitzer ought to get a whole bunch of attention.
   What' your choice, in this flooded, savage city?

[mbott]

Up close and personal would be my Mossberg 590 12-guage shotgun.  For a little farther out, my Springfield M1A in .308.

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Mike

[Dos]

Hopefully, I would never have to resort to using them, but I'm so glad I have several AK Variants in store.  7.62x39 and hi-capacity for sure.  The short barreled pistol gripped Ithaca 37 12ga., UN-PLUGGED I might add, is a wonderful tool also.

[jwc007]

In order of probable preference for this situation:

Remington 1100 w/Short Smooth Slug Barrel and 2 round extension
Maadi AKM in 7.62x39
Ruger Mini-14 .223 Scout
AR15A2 .223
L1A1 FN FAL 7.62mm NATO

[KingPolymer-III]

I have a concern.
  Imagine this hypothetical tactical scenario.

scenario I

1.  I am a New Orleans civilian who has survived the flood.
2.  I am walking down the street with my Remington 1100 .
3.  There is an opportunist and a predator up on a roof who sees his new Remington 1100. I don't see him and he sees me due to a superior vantage point.  He takes out his Remington 700 in 30-06 and blows my skull to smithereenes.  He now has two guns.

scenario II.

1.  I am a New Orleans civilian who has survived the flood.
2. I am walking down the street with my Glock 17 fully loaded to capacity inside a High Noon Side Effect belt holsters with a baggy tshirt over it (concealed).  On the other side I have a dual Bianchi mag pouch for an addittional 34 rounds., and a total of 34+(17+1)=52 9mm 124 grain Hornady TAP rounds.
3. The is an opportunist predator up on a roof and he sees a civilian with no valuables.  No interest.

Selection:  scenario II.
Rule1:  The best way to avoid a gunfight is never to get into one and never to paint yourself as a target.  Obviously, all other things being equal, this is just a thought that popped into my head.  I realize there are a multitude of variables involved.  This is a pure hypothetical.  obviously, the optimum situation is to have a pistol and a long gun and be in a defensive perimeter with both in a house.  ,but if traveling, I would take the Glock.

[BRASMAN]

Predators usualy take on easy prey. Most of them are realy lazy and want something they do not have to work for and most of the time only go after what they know might be a problem. If they thought you might even have a chance to shoot back I personaly do not think they would go after you if it was a one on one. However I would recomend going out with at least one other person if it was realy that bad and if it was and I went out alone I would not be walking down the middle of the street (Instant shooting gallary). If you were alone and he saw you first and thought you were unarmed you are a target for sure and after he kills you he will have you concealed handgun when he loots your body to see what you have. You do make a good point though and it is something to consider because the last thing you want is to give a perverted thug another wepon so it is an issue to think about before you went out. Just my two cents. I certainly agree that going out and just walking up and down the street suited up looking like captain commando all by his lonesome is a bad idea.

[KingPolymer-III]

,but if you were the only one left alive in your immediate neighborhood, you would have no choice but to venture out alone, in that case, I would surely want to conceal a high cap semi auto.  In a situation like New Orleans, given no other choice,  I would select a high cap semi auto (9mm minimum) first and foremost.

[BRASMAN]

I would pick a hi cap pistol and a rifle or shot gun and travel at night and not out in the open.

[KingPolymer-III]

I would not want to be an unarmed citizen in that region right now.  
  The thing that really pisses me off is that the liberals have sold the lie, especially to minorities that guns cause crime and most are unarmed.  Since New Orleans is so predominatly black, it is essential that the law obiding minority residents of New Orleans learn a lesson from this, especially the ones who were victims of crime and unable to defend themselves.  
  And this is not only a black issue when minorities are concenred, consider the nineties for example and the Rodny King riots in LA,  remember the South Korean business owners with ARs and AKs on the rooftops.  If memory serves right, not too many were looted.
  Hopefully we can all learn a leason from this when it comes to readiness, and that includes lawful firearms preparedness.

[BRASMAN]

I agree. The odd thing is the real racists are the ones who are telling all these people in their condisending attitude that they (the minority)can not take care of themselves they must be privided for and protected because they are not worthy of such intelegence.

[KingPolymer-III]

Yes, very much so indeed,  most oppression comes by witholding education and providing missinformation in its place.

[CanuckZ]

I'd be sporting my Vz.58V.  FAL when I'm on the roof.

[verbaltharhino]

I'd be carrying my Mossberg 500 (7-round tube with a shellholder on the buttstock and a shell belt loaded to the gills with 00 Buck).  My girlfriend would be closely BEHIND with the AK.  Both of us would have CZ full-sized on our hips.  The Uzi, the other Mossberg, ammo, and my other pistols would be buried somewhere in the house so the STINKING COPS and ARMY couldn't take them from me (anyone else learn anything from this?).

Staying close to walls and keeping a good lookout would help prevent any sniping from rooftops.  I'd move while she looked for shooters, leapfrogging.

I know this sounds lame, but I've played paintball from the time I was 15 (I'm 32).  I've played all across the country and Canada, in both recreational and tournament games, in the woods, indoors, and in "urban" situations.  I even got to play in the Mansfield Pen (where they shot Shawshank).  I know how to move, I know how to keep an eye out for movement, and how to watch my partner's back.  So does my girlfriend.  It's second nature to us.  This is a huge advantage in any given situation.  The only problem is that I don't get to start over in 20 minutes if I get hit.

[Unregistered(d)]

Good stuff so far. The major lessons learned from New Orleans is gangas win by firepower. Band together, get to know your neighbors NOW, and find out if any of them can be counted on during a bug out. DON'T let on in your area what food/water/weapons you have until you need them, as the "less fortunate", (ie, numbskulled non prepareds), will tell you to give them all your stuff, or you are a racist mean spirirted (censored). Guess what - I AM prejudiced in a bug out situation - I hate everyone not in my family or bug out team...
   As for concealing firearms, I doubt that looking unarmed would do anything but inspire attacks. Reports from NOLA at the height of the craziness was the best way to travel with a group, long guns prominently displayed....