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Offline leightoncash

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Re: Production or Limited? Please advise.
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2018, 08:21:25 PM »

TSO & TS are only for Limited, and no serious Limited shooter shoots minor PF.

 So, it's 40 caliber only, if you are there to actually compete.



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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2018, 06:41:06 AM »

TSO & TS are only for Limited, and no serious Limited shooter shoots minor PF.

 So, it's 40 caliber only, if you are there to actually compete.



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Re: Production or Limited? Please advise.
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2018, 08:13:36 AM »

TSO & TS are only for Limited, and no serious Limited shooter shoots minor PF.

 So, it's 40 caliber only, if you are there to actually compete.



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I shoot minor and I'm a serious shooter. I purchased the TSO 9mm to shoot in other competition as well.
I'm sorry, but that's like a serious sprinter choosing to sprint in comfortable hiking boots because he also likes to go on long hikes. If you are trying to win, it just doesn't make sense.  You give up an extra point for every non-alpha hit.  Its just math.  Shooting minor PF in Limited, you are at a disadvantage to your competition.

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Re: Production or Limited? Please advise.
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2018, 08:26:20 AM »

TSO & TS are only for Limited, and no serious Limited shooter shoots minor PF.

 So, it's 40 caliber only, if you are there to actually compete.



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I shoot minor and I'm a serious shooter. I purchased the TSO 9mm to shoot in other competition as well.
I'm sorry, but that's like a serious sprinter choosing to sprint in comfortable hiking boots because he also likes to go on long hikes. If you are trying to win, it just doesn't make sense.  You give up an extra point for every non-alpha hit.  Its just math.  Shooting minor PF in Limited, you are at a disadvantage to your competition.

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Re: Production or Limited? Please advise.
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2018, 06:26:43 PM »
I feel bad for the competition so I gave them a head start...

Good to see that you have the courage to be different!  If we all followed the 'herd' everyone would shooting flintlocks :)  Someone has to break the mold.  However be aware, there's a pretty good reason that the top finishers in Limited are shooting .40...

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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2018, 06:33:07 PM »
Don't forget that the TSO in 9mm is great for 3 gun, and sometimes it just doesn't make financial sense to buy another TSO just for USPSA Limited, especially if your focus is on 3 gun.

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2018, 07:22:51 PM »
Don't forget that the TSO in 9mm is great for 3 gun, and sometimes it just doesn't make financial sense to buy another TSO just for USPSA Limited, especially if your focus is on 3 gun.
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« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2018, 09:24:38 PM »


I disagree.  A lot of the top shooters in my club shoot limited minor.   You can shoot 9mm faster and therefore it has its advantages if you shoot well.    If you get mostly A's then its not a negative

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« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2018, 11:02:28 PM »
I'm sorry, but this is not a matter of opinion.  It's math.  Look at the top 50 in the Limited Nationals.  How many shot minor PF, and it wasn't because they ended up at 164.9PF at the chrono?

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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2018, 10:25:34 AM »
Now that CJW is coming out with a new RRK for the Shadow 2, I'll probably be converting my S2 back to DA/SA to shoot production.  I recently got a milled TS slide that has both .40 and 9 barrels, so I can use that on my SAO TS Blue or a SAO-converted SP-01 frame (also on my Shadow 2 frame if desired), so Limited major is pretty covered.  Just wish .40 wasn't so much more expensive.

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« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2018, 11:38:45 AM »
I'm sorry, but this is not a matter of opinion.  It's math.  Look at the top 50 in the Limited Nationals.  How many shot minor PF, and it wasn't because they ended up at 164.9PF at the chrono?

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It is a matter of opinion when you say no serious shooter will shoot 9mm.
Thats just your opinion, you don't know how serious anyone is, or the reason they do what they do.
Sure Math works out but math doesn't make you serious.

Your definition of a seriouos shooter appears to be someone who tries to win every match they enter and takes advantage of every thing at their disposal to achieve the win? That is a serious competitor in my book not a serious shooter.

Mine is some one who knows their equipment and their capabilities, Who shoots as often and as competitively as they can be with what they choose to use. Knows the rules, is completely safe and enjoys shooting enough to want to do it often.

Can you be both? Sure do you have to be one to be the other.......Nope no mater if 4>3

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Re: Production or Limited? Please advise.
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2018, 11:42:03 AM »
From what you just wrote, I definitely meant serious competitor.

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Re: Production or Limited? Please advise.
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2018, 06:58:51 PM »
Gabe White is the only badass I know of shooting Limited Minor.  There could be others, but it's rare.  Shoot whatever you prefer, but if you want to be competitive then Limited is best shot Major PF