Home Defense Pistol

[osubuckeye78]

Good choice on the pistol. Now find yourself a Remington 870 or clone for cheap. My bedside pistol is a shotgun.

[Vinny]

Well, I put down a little $ on the steel framed SP-01 manual safety today. A couple more paychecks and it will be home. Since this is SD related, I also just bought a Ft. Knox quick access safe with the simplex lock and love it. It was about twice the cost of other battery op safes, but worth it IMO (no 9v batteries to buy/recharge, heavy duty steel, quick access, big enough for 2 full sized pistols and mags). I'm planning on running the o-light charge cord through one of the mounting holes on the bottom - we'll see how that works...keep you posted.

Newageroman,
It's hard to beat an SP-01 with an O-light as an HD pistol, and good that you'll have it in a quick access safe. Hope the wife likes it too; otherwise you'll have an excuse to get another CZ! 

[BG ARMORY]

SP01 tact has been my night stand gun for a loooooooong time. The standard sp01 with manual safety was my go to pistol until i got the tactical, the deckocker system is my preferred choice vs a safety.

P07/09, Glock 19/17, S&W M&P are good choices. But i feel like the Walther PPQ lineup gets ignored sometimes, realllly ergonomic pistols. VP9 are nice as well, if you can find one on sale, little higher price.

Own a P07 for ccw, but changed that to a p10 recently. Owned a glock, sold it for my first SP01.

[Zeebz]

Well, I put down a little $ on the steel framed SP-01 manual safety today. A couple more paychecks and it will be home. Since this is SD related, I also just bought a Ft. Knox quick access safe with the simplex lock and love it. It was about twice the cost of other battery op safes, but worth it IMO (no 9v batteries to buy/recharge, heavy duty steel, quick access, big enough for 2 full sized pistols and mags). I'm planning on running the o-light charge cord through one of the mounting holes on the bottom - we'll see how that works...keep you posted.

Great choice, you won't be disappointed.  For under $1,000 you're probably not going to beat the SP-01 Tactical as an HD/combat gun.  I've had just about everything at one point and the ONLY guns I would take over an SP-01T would be an HK USP Tactical or Mark 23.

[hansgruber]

So... I just got a couple of o-lights on special and don't have a good HD gun with a rail. Wife is used to glocks, but I hate them for obvious reasons, but you just can't deny the reliability. Have carry pistols and competition pistols already, so this will be a HD/range gun with maybe a match or two between just to get used to handling it under pressure. I expect to get CZ biased answer, but I'm really only familiar with the 75/85 and shadows. Looking for good reliable options with the following:

• standard rail for light
• good metal triggers with no safety dingus (but not absolutely mandatory)
• Double stack 9mm ~17 rounds
• DA/SA with safety model (preferred but not absolute required)
• Around ~ $600 or so
• stock/minimal mods needed (I love tweaking guns, but looking for stock for HD)

Considering the following:

• G17/19
• Canick TP9
• CZ SP-01 and

Thx in advance!

Do you live in a "free state?"  If so the obvious answer is an AR-15 pistol 8" barrel in .300 Blackout with a Sig brace or other such attachment.  Depending on the level of freedom in your state, either run it with some Hornady 208 grain loaded subsonic through a suppressor, or opt for a highly frangible 110-125 grain load sans sup-unit.  The Magpul 60 round drum makes a starting load-out.  This entire package can easily lean next to the bed, or be in it with you if you prefer.  Clearly you can festoon it with lights, lasers, and cameras if desired.  It makes a GREAT in-house, CQB defense against pretty much any level of "home invader."

[newageroman]

Was able to get the SP-01 out of layaway Saturday. First range trip was Sunday. The mini Olight fits well after switching to the pic rail insert. It ate about 100 rounds (small round count I know, but I had rifles and shotty to work in the lineup) of speer gold dots and my competition reloads with no problems. I had my old 75B there too, and the old one apparently got jealous, threw a fit and broke the slide stop. I've heard about this happening. I guess that is an excuse to buy more parts next paycheck. I'll be adding a few things to the 75B - new slide stop, better sights, magwell and maybe extended safety/mag release to it for USPSA limited.

Here are some comparisons that I noticed between the 75B SAO and the stock SP-01:

• 01 is noticeably heavier, particularly on the nose. even more so with the o light added (obviously)
• I actually really like the rubber grips of the SP-01 - my old 75B had well used plastic grips that I changed to LOK thins (which I LOVE). I think I'll keep the rubber grips on the 01 for now.
• 01 better sights, there is a small allen screw for removing/drifting them. My first set of night sights. the glowing dots seem to work OK.
• Mag interchangeability is a bonus as I no longer have to consider buying more mags for the 75B during competition. I did notice that the spare MecGar mags that I bought separately for the 75B a while ago (blue bullet pusher) do have a smoother, low drag feel than the stock 01 mags. Springs on the 01 mags seem a little stiffer/grittier, but I'm sure that will be worked out soon.
• 01 trigger pull and weight is pretty dang good for HD (There's not much grittiness/creep) to be removed/improved on. I will say that I don't like the shape of the trigger though. The tip of the trigger digs into the bottom side of my trigger finger when firing. Comparing the stock 01 trigger to the 75B SAO comp trigger, the SAO wins easily, but the thing I like about it most is the shape of the trigger. it is the flat face with the curved end. I'm hoping/wondering if one of these style triggers can be installed on the 01 while keeping it DA/SA. Also a big bonus for me is now I have a DA trigger that I can use to dry fire/run drills with in prep for using the 75B in USPSA.
• 01 has the newer purple trigger return spring that I've heard about, I'm guessing that its a little more reliable.

Thanks again for the input can't wait to put some more rounds through both of these awesome pistols...

[M1A4ME]

It's not the round count you put through it - it's what you get out of that round count.

I seldom shoot more than a box out of any pistol I take to the range.  Only exception to that in the last few years was the M&P FS .357 SIG when I was trying to see if I'd finally gotten it fixed (failure to fire problems).  I think I put 3 or 4 boxes through it the last time I shot in a few years back.

Like you, I usually go to the range with more than a couple other guns to shoot.  Last time we had 3 AR15's.  Sighted in two of them with new optics and just shot the other one to see if it was going to keep shooting (the one I ran into failure to chamber on with the new barrel/bolt - new build with a combination of parts that didn't play well together).

I like those rubber grip panels.  I've put them on my Pre B CZ85 and my wife's CZ75 Compact.  Also ordered a set for my youngest son's CZ75SA (and he likes them, too.)

[newageroman]

This range session was mainly to test for reliability. I'm also not the greatest with the DA pull, as I have been spoiled with the 75B SAO. So that will definitely take getting used to.

For fun range guns or plinkers I'm good with just a few boxes of ammo test. Since the 01 will pull primary HD duty, I'm going to run another 400 rounds through it before calling it GTG. I do the same for carry.

I loaded up a bunch of PD124 HPs a while back and they ran fine through my carry gun (KahrCM9) for the first 150 rounds or so. Then I got a misfeed which validated the - run you carry with the ammo you plan to use for at least 500 rounds.

For comp gun, I load and plunk every round....now... I got some misfeeds with it (using my reloads) during a match a while back and besides being embarrassing, it was very frustrating. I also take extra factory rounds just in case.

I did some looking and think I can get a different style trigger and keep the DA/SA action. Can't wait to dive into it, but will be a couple of paydays before that happens.

[M1A4ME]

Won't the CZ85 old style trigger so many people recommend fit your pistol?  If it's different than the current trigger and you like the curve/feel of that old style trigger.

Seems like, many years ago, the test round/confirmation round count was down around 200 or 250 rounds for a new pistol - and with the ammo you intended to carry in it.

On my M&P FS 9MM it went into the failure to fire issue when I came back from the first range trip.  I ordered an APEX CAEK for it, installed it and everything was sweet for a year.  Then it started again.  Problem was two fold - sear flutter and trigger bar set up/adjustment.  A new (stronger) sear spring and sear took care of the one and a "tweak" to the trigger bar to make it engage the striker block earlier in it's travel took care of the second problem.  I put 450 rounds through it without a failure (vs. 2 or 3 per magazine) and put it in the safe to grow mushrooms.

We see it here, sometimes, where people say their pistol has been doing fine and then suddenly they start having problems.  And, many of us have pistols with thousands of rounds through them with zero issues.  If it happens to you, it happens, hopefully you can move past it without getting hurt because your pistol suddenly acted up.

[newageroman]

yes, I've been told just last night on the FB group that the old trigger will work with the new 01 - yippie for me!
I won't cry over the slide stop breakage - its an old gun and cheap part to replace. I just thought it was very ironic it happened when testing the new CZ. It's been a while since I've done anything to the old girl anyway. The parts list growing in my head > money left in my pocket...