Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested

[M1A4ME]

I have no connections/don't benefit from these being bought/sold, just thought P10 owners might be interested.

This guy (G. Suarez) is a big Glock guy who seems to have become interested in both the P10 and the Scorpion.  The guy is very outspoken and it seems people like him, or hate him.  If you let that affect what you buy then take it into consideration.  I've bought a couple RMRs from him a few years back (for my P07 and P09 - they didn't used to work on CZ pistols but they had a good deal on RMRs) and a nice trigger for one of my AR15's (I don't think they sell those anymore).

I think this is their first P10 upgrade parts venture.

I have no idea how good the trigger is vs. others.  People seem to like the Glock stuff they make/sell/install but I don't like Glocks, so I can't say how well their parts for those work.

https://suarezinternational.com/face-shooter-trigger-cz-p10/

Edited - that sentence should have said I have NO connections, I left out the NO.  Sorry for any confusion.

[schmeky]

We can't cut a trigger, anodize, assemble, package it, and provide GS liability insurance for $29.00.

China parts can  be made dirt cheap (which are not legal as lock work parts in the USA as we understand the law).  But I have no idea where these are made.

[Scarlett Pistol]

We can't cut a trigger, anodize, assemble, package it, and provide GS liability insurance for $29.00.

China parts can  be made dirt cheap (which are not legal as lock work parts in the USA as we understand the law).  But I have no idea where these are made.

^^^The master speaks.

[HBi]

Schmeky CGW is right; their numbers don't work out. The good news is that we have been using their prototypes for over a year now and they work great LOL

(Yes... that is a joke... and their triggers appear to be a direct copy of ours)

[Raining_Brass]

I find it extraordinarily hard to believe that that's American made for $30. But maybe I'm wrong.

[Stuart]

Freakin' awesome!

[schmeky]

I find it extraordinarily hard to believe that that's American made for $30. But maybe I'm wrong

Bruce,

You are of course, right.  You know as well I do that $30.00 for a part like this can only happen from some place like China.  I don't think will ITAR will allow this.  Fines and penalties are quite stiff, if in fact this is the case. 


My understanding is that this type of part is strictly prohibited from any Communist Block Country.

[Raining_Brass]

I find it extraordinarily hard to believe that that's American made for $30. But maybe I'm wrong

Bruce,

You are of course, right.  You know as well I do that $30.00 for a part like this can only happen from some place like China.  I don't think will ITAR will allow this.  Fines and penalties are quite stiff, if in fact this is the case. 


My understanding is that this type of part is strictly prohibited from any Communist Block Country.

$30 would maybe cover our machine time alone between the shoe itself and the safety. Never mind:
- american labor to qc the parts
- american labor to prep the parts for anodizing
- shipping to anodizing
- anodizing cost itself
- return shipping from anodizing
- american labor to assemble the safety and safety spring into the show
- american labor to package the trigger
- cost of packaging itself
- cost of material to make above mentioned safety and trigger show (oh - and american labor to saw and prep said material for machining)
- cost of above mentioned safety spring from a spring manufacturer

Then of course, we are in business to make money, so marking said product up to make a few dollars on it and arriving at $30....I just can't see it. lol

[NCTURBOS]

According to their website, looks like they're going to offer a lighter, than OEM, weight tool steel striker towards the end of the year as well.

K.

[schmeky]

Originally posted by HBI:
 

  Schmeky CGW is right

So you are confirming this is a Chinese made part?

[BobcatAZ]

Seems to be quite a bit of history and controversy surrounding Mr. Saurez.

[HBi]

We have no idea where or how Suarez makes their parts. I am backing CGW and Primary Machine on costs, no idea how they are doing it this cheap. More over I was trying to make a joke about how similar their P10 triggers look to our parts (HBI). It appears that they did not even try to change the design. Bought one of ours and copied it 1:1. If they are designing/manufacturing here it seems like they would also have the capabilities to innovate something new rather than a direct knock off.

[Scarlett Pistol]

Even beyond the controversy of cost and production... All the shops and companies on this forum, while they may compete, are very classy and don?t steal designs in this 1:1 fashion. I?ll avoid Suarez just to insure I support the true innovators and producers that have given this forum and brand so much!

[Earl Keese]

"Face Shooter"? That's mature.

[BobcatAZ]

Yeah, wait until the attorneys find out you had a Face Shooter trigger installed in your gun when involved in a self defense situation.