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Offline Stuart

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 09:03:26 PM »
We have no idea where or how Suarez makes their parts. I am backing CGW and Primary Machine on costs, no idea how they are doing it this cheap. More over I was trying to make a joke about how similar their P10 triggers look to our parts (HBI). It appears that they did not even try to change the design. Bought one of ours and copied it 1:1. If they are designing/manufacturing here it seems like they would also have the capabilities to innovate something new rather than a direct knock off.

If you don't have to invest in  R&D, you get a big savings. but not sure how you knock out a trigger and be able to sell at that price point.
We love the HBi trigger :)

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 09:34:01 PM »
Schmeky CGW is right; their numbers don't work out. The good news is that we have been using their prototypes for over a year now and they work great LOL

(Yes... that is a joke... and their triggers appear to be a direct copy of ours)


I need the orange one on my new FDE P10c

Offline Atomic Punk

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2018, 09:40:52 PM »
According to this news story, Suarez was a Santa Monica cop and pled guilty to Workman's Comp fraud to the tune of $115K and did a year in jail. That should tell you all you need to know about his moral compass.

http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2002/Mar-2002/03_13_02_Officer_Charged_with_Workers_Comp_Fraud_to_Stand_Trial.htm

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2018, 11:32:39 PM »
According to this news story, Suarez was a Santa Monica cop and pled guilty to Workman's Comp fraud to the tune of $115K and did a year in jail. That should tell you all you need to know about his moral compass.

http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2002/Mar-2002/03_13_02_Officer_Charged_with_Workers_Comp_Fraud_to_Stand_Trial.htm
He ranks up there with Yaeger and Troy Industries yet people still give them money.

Offline armoredman

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2018, 01:21:43 AM »
So if this is a direct rip off of the HBI part, perhaps they can sue?
I still haven't gotten my FDE in for work yet, so tied up with goofy stuff.

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2018, 07:40:28 AM »
In my experience, more often than not...
buy cheap, get cheap
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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2018, 08:13:48 AM »
Atomic Punk,

Yes sir, that indeed tells an integrity story. 

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2018, 07:53:39 PM »
We have no idea where or how Suarez makes their parts. I am backing CGW and Primary Machine on costs, no idea how they are doing it this cheap. More over I was trying to make a joke about how similar their P10 triggers look to our parts (HBI). It appears that they did not even try to change the design. Bought one of ours and copied it 1:1. If they are designing/manufacturing here it seems like they would also have the capabilities to innovate something new rather than a direct knock off.
Take them to court. Stinks that people try to ride on the coat tales of others for a buck hurting the other all the while.

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2018, 08:05:05 PM »
I bought the real thing and I'm glad I did... Been working great.

Offline Scarlett Pistol

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2018, 02:04:18 AM »
Ordered some Torx grip screws for my 75?s today from HBI. Don?t have the guns for any other parts ya?ll make. Just chipping in a little to offset Saurez.
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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2018, 02:29:00 PM »
Ordered some Torx grip screws for my 75?s today from HBI. Don?t have the guns for any other parts ya?ll make. Just chipping in a little to offset Saurez.

WOW! @Scarlett Pistol thank you so much for your support. That was very unexpected and humbles us by showing how fortunate our company is to have such a wonderful customer base in the CZ aftermarket.

It is a "free market" as they say, other than cosmetics its nearly impossible to patent the mechanics of a replacement trigger like this... other companies are free to make the same thing (enter glock/ar parts market). The difference here is that we aim to exceed all others in product quality and customer support. You know, things that continue to make American products superior to many foreign made parts :-)

I think there are at least three other CZ aftermarket companies in this thread, ALL of them making HIGH quality parts with excellent customer service to back it up. It is probably worth noting that they were all contributing here in this thread within a day or two of the original post. That is probably another golden trait of the CZ aftermarket not seen with many other firearms platforms... service and support goes long beyond the time you buy a product.
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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2018, 04:24:41 PM »
Many reasons I would not buy from Suarez, but mainly I'd stay away from this product because of the amazing triggers that are already proven and come from reputable companies.  I have both HBi and CGW aftermarket triggers for my P10C. I can attest to the excellent function and quality of both designs.  HBi, CGW, and all the other awesome companies on this forum also have excellent customer service and are more than happy to help out when we have questions.  This kind of service does not go unnoticed, especially in a community like ours. That's why it is so important that we support these companies not only by buying their products but also by telling everyone about the great service they provide!

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2018, 04:27:33 PM »
Many reasons I would not buy from Suarez, but mainly I'd stay away from this product because of the amazing triggers that are already proven and come from reputable companies.  I have both HBi and CGW aftermarket triggers for my P10C. I can attest to the excellent function and quality of both designs.  HBi, CGW, and all the other awesome companies on this forum also have excellent customer service and are more than happy to help out when we have questions.  This kind of service does not go unnoticed, especially in a community like ours. That's why it is so important that we support these companies not only by buying their products but also by telling everyone about the great service they provide!
This forum needs a "like" feature for posts.

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2018, 05:44:46 PM »
Many reasons I would not buy from Suarez, but mainly I'd stay away from this product because of the amazing triggers that are already proven and come from reputable companies.  I have both HBi and CGW aftermarket triggers for my P10C. I can attest to the excellent function and quality of both designs.  HBi, CGW, and all the other awesome companies on this forum also have excellent customer service and are more than happy to help out when we have questions.  This kind of service does not go unnoticed, especially in a community like ours. That's why it is so important that we support these companies not only by buying their products but also by telling everyone about the great service they provide!
I'll second that too.  We are blessed to have some great folks who are active in this forum supporting our shared addiction. 

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Re: Saw these on another forum, P10 owners might be interested
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2018, 06:57:15 PM »
Any company like Suarez that puts up a disclaimer saying that they're not responsible for virtually anything that happens with their product is not somebody I ever want to deal with, especially knowing the owners background. You don't stand behind your product like HBI or Primary Machines does .who would  want to deal with them.
Companies that use garbage material and workmanship have no integrity.
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