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Offline my3sonz

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Surplus CZs
« on: October 21, 2018, 10:29:49 PM »
There are surplus CZs to be had on GB. Several in desirable models. Does anyone have experience with these imports?  Are they recommended?


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Offline Scarlett Pistol

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Re: Surplus CZs
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 11:58:57 PM »
I picked up a pre b full size. People get them for restoration projects, truck guns, you name it. Just look at the pictures well and be ready to do some TLC. You?ll likely want to swap out springs and clean it thoroughly.
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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: Surplus CZs
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2018, 06:20:34 AM »
The only advice I can give you is this:
1) if the Pre B CZ75 you buy is early enough/old enough you'll have a hard time finding parts for the safety if you ever break/lose a part
2) if the Pre B CZ75 you buy is early enough/old enough the front sight is staked in, sort of like a 1911, and finding a replacement and getting someone to install it is pretty tough.
3) same goes for the barrel bushing.
4) for some you'll have to either buy "Pre B" magazines at $10 or $15 more per mag. or modify/have modified the interior of the magazine well/frame to allow the use of newer magazines.

If you find/buy a CZ85 Pre B then 2), 3), and 4) still apply as well as:
1) the right side of the frame would have to me slightly modified (hole diameter enlarged) if you had to replace the right side slide release.

People get around the above (if needed due to wear/tear/damage or just inclined to upgrade their pistol) by finding a shop willing to modify the slide to allow use of newer style front sights/barrel bushing and enlarging the right side slide stop hole if it's a Pre CZ85.

If you like working on an old gun, or paying to have it worked on then it won't be an issue.  I bought a Pre CZ85 a couple years ago and it was fun (stripping it down, cleaning it, buying/replacing some of the parts myself and sending it off to be refinished.  It's a sweet looking pistol now.  But I would not do it again.  Some folks here have done it several times.  It's like a hobby for them.  Depends on your personality and your wallet.

Sorry, just realized your post is in the Compact section, so Pre B's shouldn't be an issue.  You should be able to get parts for the Compacts (I don't know of any Pre B Compacts or CZ85 Compacts) to repair or upgrade them with no issues.
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Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Surplus CZs
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2018, 07:13:33 AM »
For the most part, I only buy from DWJ Imports (previously CDI Sales). They've been very honest about describing condition and prices/shipping are reasonable.
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Offline badwrench

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Re: Surplus CZs
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2018, 08:17:42 AM »
Quote from: my3sonz on October 21, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
There are surplus CZs to be had on GB. Several in desirable models. Does anyone have experience with these imports?  Are they recommended?


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Like everyone else has said, figure on replacing most, if not all of the springs in the gun..It seems that alot of these surplus CZ's have been coming from the middle east, where they often were used, and used hard.You'll be buying a pistol that has a unknown round count, and, you'll have no real idea how well (if at all) it was maintained while it was in service.. If you want a project then, they could be alot of fun, but don't expect to buy one and not have to repair, replace some parts on it before you're done, and, if you go whole hog, refinish, polish the internals, sights, etc, expect to have more in it than what a new one would cost.. I'm not saying all of them, are wore out POS's, they're not, but, some in the pile probably are, just be prepared if you end up being that guy who gets it...
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Offline my3sonz

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Re: Surplus CZs
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2018, 08:46:59 AM »
Quote from: badwrench on October 22, 2018, 08:17:42 AM
Quote from: my3sonz on October 21, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
There are surplus CZs to be had on GB. Several in desirable models. Does anyone have experience with these imports?  Are they recommended?


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Like everyone else has said, figure on replacing most, if not all of the springs in the gun..It seems that alot of these surplus CZ's have been coming from the middle east, where they often were used, and used hard.You'll be buying a pistol that has a unknown round count, and, you'll have no real idea how well (if at all) it was maintained while it was in service.. If you want a project then, they could be alot of fun, but don't expect to buy one and not have to repair, replace some parts on it before you're done, and, if you go whole hog, refinish, polish the internals, sights, etc, expect to have more in it than what a new one would cost.. I'm not saying all of them, are wore out POS's, they're not, but, some in the pile probably are, just be prepared if you end up being that guy who gets it...

Dang, you're saying exactly what I know in the back of my mind. Great guidance. Thanks.


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