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Offline Scarlett Pistol

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More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« on: November 26, 2018, 06:02:04 PM »
Found 4 stepped cases today after cleaning 1,500 or so cases.

IMT
FM

I know FM was Freedom Munitions. Who is IMT?

Just freaking garbage that this type of case exists.






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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 09:45:56 PM »
Don't like stepped cases?  Don't buy anything from Xtreme or Freedom Munitions.

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 09:56:44 PM »
Don't like stepped cases?  Don't buy anything from Xtreme or Freedom Munitions.
I heard they stopped making them.
Problem is that they have made their way into my brass piles and I'll be sorting through them for years to come.

So I never buy from Freedom Munitions on principle.

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 10:03:06 PM »
Like Underwhere my stash has them from range pick up. Once I learned of this stunt I never want ed to purchase from them and resisted their low price products.
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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2018, 06:19:20 AM »
Only thing I have bought from them are their 165 gr 9mm pills

Dont buy that either.  If a company puts out a crappy, potentially dangerous product like those cases, tjey should be shunned.

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2018, 12:33:05 PM »
The last 9mm brass I bought from them was a couple years ago and wasn't stepped and worked fine. I've shot many thousands of their bullets (9mm, 38/.357, .40, .45 and .223/5.56) and have been served well. Seems since their last bankruptcy they're pricing themselves out of business.

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2018, 02:49:58 PM »
Like Underwhere my stash has them from range pick up. Once I learned of this stunt I never want ed to purchase from them and resisted their low price products.
Found 3 of these while priming/prepping brass the other night. They have a very distinct feel in the resizing die. In over 10k rounds of range brass, these are my first. I blame you Scarlet!  O0

Offline Scarlett Pistol

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2018, 03:09:11 PM »
Like Underwhere my stash has them from range pick up. Once I learned of this stunt I never want ed to purchase from them and resisted their low price products.
Found 3 of these while priming/prepping brass the other night. They have a very distinct feel in the resizing die. In over 10k rounds of range brass, these are my first. I blame you Scarlet!  O0

I?ve been blamed for a lot of things on this forum, mostly around spending though haha. Glad you found them rather than having them get loaded and exploding on you!
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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2018, 03:28:00 PM »
Like Underwhere my stash has them from range pick up. Once I learned of this stunt I never want ed to purchase from them and resisted their low price products.

Same here. Once, one of those split in half inside my Glock's barrel. It was a nightmare to pull out the broken half from inside the chamber.

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2018, 05:10:13 PM »
If something like that happens, putting the barrel inthe freezer can help.  The case and the barrel should contract away from one another.

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2018, 06:30:34 PM »
If something like that happens, putting the barrel inthe freezer can help.  The case and the barrel should contract away from one another.
   This right here did the trick. Had this happen with the same FM ammo in a .9mm revolver that the new owner,(ahem not me[emoji6]) had forgot to lube before shooting the first time. Locked into the cylinder super tight. I believe it was IDescribe that mentioned the above back then and it worked like a charm.
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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2018, 08:52:54 PM »
If something like that happens, putting the barrel inthe freezer can help.  The case and the barrel should contract away from one another.

Thanks IDescribe, I will keep that nice trick in mind, but I rally hope this won't happen again.

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2018, 09:54:07 PM »
I've bought and fired a lot of there new manufacture 115gr FMJ 9mm over the years. It was a little on the lighter side, but always shot accurately in my pistols, especially the 75B ?.

Probably have 6-8 pounds of their brass somewhere downstairs (not certain exactly where after the move this summer). When I find it, it will go in the "Brass for Recycling" can at my local shooting club.
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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2018, 05:44:32 PM »
I have a 1050 with a Mark VII autoloader.  Some of these stepped cases hang at my resizing station, and some pass through.  Haven't actually sat down to figure out why that's the case (no pun intended).

I was wondering if I could cobble together some back-up rod contraption at the priming or swaging step such that it would offer a hard stop as a method of detecting them before you wasted a primer.  For now, those that slip by the resizing station I catch at the powder drop station by eye...but then I've wasted a primer.

If anyone has ideas...love to hear them...

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Re: More stepped cases - cursed garbage
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2018, 07:11:35 PM »
I went through a couple partial jugs of 9MM brass two days ago (resizing the misc., Blazer and Win. brass and flaring the case mouths on the Win. to get it ready for loading).

I ran across two cases in the misc. jug that really took some effort to resize.  I can't remember the name right now (old guy thing - I'll remember it 10 minutes after I post this).  Anyway, when I pulled the case out of the shell holder they had the stepped brass shelf inside.  It was so high in the case the threaded cap that holds the primer punch pin in place in the RCBS die had gouged the top/inside edges of the shelf.  I set those aside.  Only noticed it on those two.

I grabbed a 147 grain 9MM hollow point and held it side by side with the case and you could see there was no way you could seat a 147 grain bullet in those cases.  Or at least not and keep the base of the bullet intact.  Enough seating pressure might have resulted in the base of the bullet separating and pushing down lower into the case - really reducing chamber volume and driving up pressures - or the case might have just bulged out like a snake that swallowed a rabbit.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?