Glock Gen 5 vs P-10 C trigger

[fastlane604]

For you that own or have shot a Glock Gen 5, how does the trigger compare to a P-10 C?  The reason I ask is this.  I drove my wife two hours to go Christmas shopping last week.  I managed to duck off to a Cabelas's and handle a G 34 Gen 5.  It felt much better in my hand than I remembered the G 17 I owned for a short time years ago.  The short time was because I didn't like it.  This G34 felt much less 2x4 like than I remembered.  The attendant was prohibited from removing the trigger lock so I couldn't dry fire it.  I really like the triggers on my P-10 Cs.
 
I have an HBI on one and a CGW on the other. They both are down to 4 lbs.  How does the Gen 5 trigger compare?  Since it appears that CZ is not building anything with more than a 4.5 inch barrel anytime soon, this G 34 looks like it could be an acceptable alternative if I can make the trigger the way I want it.  There are no ranges within many miles of me that rent handguns, which is why I am asking this question.

[CZ173]

Cz p10c with hbi trigger is better than the glock gen 5 trigger all day every day and twice on Sunday

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[TNman]

fastlane604 wrote; " Since it appears that CZ is not building anything with more than a 4.5 inch barrel anytime soon,..."

I know they are in short supply, but the new P10 Full-size is now available. The subcompact will be out in January'ish.

[kjphilippona]

I replaced the trigger on my only Glock a G19.5 with a Wheaton Arms trigger and "-" connector, it still is not as good as my CZ P10C!

[rbuzz00]

I have both a CZ P10C and a Glock G45 (new G45 9mm, not a 45ACP).  Both are 100% stock and both have approximately the same round count.

As far as trigger pull weight, they are close, but the CZ edges out the Glock.  CZ avg of 3 pulls--4lb 15 oz          Glock avg of 3 pulls--5lb 2oz

Both triggers are very similar. Take up on both is approximately 1/4" travel, reset about the same, the reset is very noticeable and audible on each with the Glock a bit louder, but the CZ breaks crisper with little or no creep. The Glock has a quite a bit of creep in the trigger. 

Like I said, both are very similar and both are, IMO, more than acceptable for a carry weapon, but I feel the CZ has a better trigger than the Glock G45.

I know you didn't ask about overall feel, but for me anyway, the CZ is simply more comfortable in the hand and easier to shoot. I shoot the CZ more accurately than I do the Glock.

[fastlane604]

fastlane604 wrote; " Since it appears that CZ is not building anything with more than a 4.5 inch barrel anytime soon,..."

I know they are in short supply, but the new P10 Full-size is now available. The subcompact will be out in January'ish.

Yes, I understand the full-size is becoming available. Hence, the reference to the 4.5 inch barrel.  The G 34 has a 5.3 inch barrel.  The long sight plane and increased muzzle velocity are enticing.  I don't think the .5 inch difference in sight radius of the P-10F over the P-10C is of much value to me.  Unless, I decide to put a red dot on a P-10F.

I would much prefer that CZ offer a P-10 long slide version with a 5 inch barrel, but that does not seem to be in the works.

[fastlane604]

Cz p10c with hbi trigger is better than the glock gen 5 trigger all day every day and twice on Sunday

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I like my HBI trigger very much.  I actually prefer it over the CGW trigger, even though the CGW has overtravel adjusment. Both are good and I imagine it is more of a presonal preference kind of thing.

[fastlane604]

Thank you all for your input.  I appreciate it. Please continue.

[Mjolnir]

Different.

Not ?better? nor ?worse?.

What are YOU seeking in a trigger?


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[Mjolnir]

fastlane604 wrote; " Since it appears that CZ is not building anything with more than a 4.5 inch barrel anytime soon,..."

I know they are in short supply, but the new P10 Full-size is now available. The subcompact will be out in January'ish.

Yes, I understand the full-size is becoming available. Hence, the reference to the 4.5 inch barrel.  The G 34 has a 5.3 inch barrel.  The long sight plane and increased muzzle velocity are enticing.  I don't think the .5 inch difference in sight radius of the P-10F over the P-10C is of much value to me.  Unless, I decide to put a red dot on a P-10F.

I would much prefer that CZ offer a P-10 long slide version with a 5 inch barrel, but that does not seem to be in the works.

If you put a red dot on a pistol... the longer sight radius is not needed. The red dot would be better placed on the shorter sight radiused pistol.


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[fastlane604]

fastlane604 wrote; " Since it appears that CZ is not building anything with more than a 4.5 inch barrel anytime soon,..."

I know they are in short supply, but the new P10 Full-size is now available. The subcompact will be out in January'ish.

Yes, I understand the full-size is becoming available. Hence, the reference to the 4.5 inch barrel.  The G 34 has a 5.3 inch barrel.  The long sight plane and increased muzzle velocity are enticing.  I don't think the .5 inch difference in sight radius of the P-10F over the P-10C is of much value to me.  Unless, I decide to put a red dot on a P-10F.

I would much prefer that CZ offer a P-10 long slide version with a 5 inch barrel, but that does not seem to be in the works.

If you put a red dot on a pistol... the longer sight radius is not needed. The red dot would be better placed on the shorter sight radiused pistol.

Maybe I explained myself poorly.  The reason that I stated I could go with a P-10 F vs a G34 if I put a red dot on it, is that I understand that the sight radius does not come in to play with a red dot.  Hence, knowing and liking the CZ trigger vs not knowing the G 34 trigger, I could go with the P-10 F. However, since the P-10 F and P-10 C triggers are alike, I don't agree that the P-10 C is the better choice for a red dot for me.  The reason being, I shoot these guns in competition and the longer barrel produces more velocity which creates a higher power factor for the same load. Plus the longer barrels produce less muzzle flip.  If the shorter barreled gun was the best option for a red dot, then I should put one on a P-10 S. I don't think that is the case.


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[fastlane604]

Different.

Not ?better? nor ?worse?.

What are YOU seeking in a trigger?


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Since I like the CZ trigger, I suppose what I am seeking is something similar to that or something that I can modify to be similar to the CZ trigger.  The things that I like about the CZ trigger are the very short, positive reset.  With the HBI trigger,  the pre-travel has been reduced to an acceptable level.  I have the CGW trigger on my second P-10 C and found that when I adjusted out the pre-travel completely, I didn't like it as well as having some pre-travel left. With the HBI trigger, the trigger comes to the wall and breaks cleanly at 4 lbs.  I have changed the striker spring to reduce the pull weight.  I have had no light strikes.  There is no mush.

[e-mishka]

My P10c is early 2018 build date, I was unimpressed with factory trigger especially after all the hype. I'd say about same as my Gen 4 Glock 17.
I did try Glock 45 at the store the other day and for me it has better trigger then my P10c.

P.S. Im not a glock fanboy by all means

[dpsk]

I own an original (Gen 2.5) Glock 27, a Gen 4 G19 and G17, and a G43.  In addition, I used to own a Gen 4 G22.  I haven't shot a Gen 5 Glock yet.  Of all my Glocks, the original Gen G27 has by far the best trigger.  The rest are certainly "combat effective," but weren't what I consider to be good until I did some common trigger work/mods on them.  My P-10C has an excellent trigger with one drawback - that darn trigger bite.  If I compare my G27 to my P-10C, the G27 wins all day long.   

[cstellabott]

Didn?t realize how bad I need to upgrade the trigger on my P10 until I got a 19X, I think the trigger is way smoother in the Glock. Crisper, better break, not pinchy.


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