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Offline chomorro

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Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« on: December 30, 2018, 04:17:42 PM »
Update: figured it out NVM.

Brand new kadet 2 kit.  Filed down the sides so it will fit nice and snug.  But I cant get it passed this point no matter what.  It hits a hard stop not a squeeze stop.

Filed down to bottom barrel according to instructions but I stopped because I dont  think that's what it is hitting.

Advice?  If I put the barrel outside of alignment it fits fine. See pics 3rd photo is as far in as it will go. First pic shows the barrel will align holes if not fitted into the slide.





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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2018, 05:21:24 PM »
Nvm figured it out.  Had to really file down that section of the bottom barrel.  Spent some more time doing it and it fits super snug now.

Wish I had done the barrel first. Might not have had to file so much on the slide section.  Fits snug and wont fit in my other sp01 without a little force so its tight clearance.

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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 09:40:53 AM »
  Looks like Santa was good to you!
Glad you got it figured out. It’ll be fine even if you worked the front section a bit more than it really had to be. As you said, it fits snug and requires a little gentle persuasion to fit your other frame; that’s exactly how it ought to be.
  With the Kadet the sights are fixed to the adapter and so is the barrel, so fit to the frame has no bearing on barrel to sight alignment. I hope that you will find it as enjoyable as I and so many others do with nice accuracy from a gun that already fits the hand so well and excellent reliability across a broad spectrum of ammo brands.
  Hopefully you’ve already checked into or have the modded uplula loader. They sure make a difference. If not there is a good tutorial available that clearly illustrates the procedure.
  Happy shooting!
 
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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »
  Looks like Santa was good to you!
Glad you got it figured out. It’ll be fine even if you worked the front section a bit more than it really had to be. As you said, it fits snug and requires a little gentle persuasion to fit your other frame; that’s exactly how it ought to be.
  With the Kadet the sights are fixed to the adapter and so is the barrel, so fit to the frame has no bearing on barrel to sight alignment. I hope that you will find it as enjoyable as I and so many others do with nice accuracy from a gun that already fits the hand so well and excellent reliability across a broad spectrum of ammo brands.
  Hopefully you’ve already checked into or have the modded uplula loader. They sure make a difference. If not there is a good tutorial available that clearly illustrates the procedure.
  Happy shooting!
 
Thank you! I was able to get a new one discounted but now I kind if wish I bought another for my sp01 for the misses. 

Seems like it would be really accurate and reliable since it has a similar design to the buckmark.

Only downside I can find is the price of extra mags........

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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 07:25:21 PM »
I'd argue that while a snug fit is great, it's not critical for good accuracy.  That's because the barrel and the sight are always locked together, so there's no problem getting consistent lockup.  (It's like a Ruger MK (I-IV)  in which only the bolt really moves when the gun cycles.)  As long as pulling the trigger doesn't cause inconsistent movement of the upper assembly, it should be a tack-driver.

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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 07:36:19 PM »
I'm just hoping it works well with the shadow 1 conversion.  Has the full production legal CGW kit on it, hopefully no issues with the main spring

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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2019, 08:04:59 AM »
   You’ll know in pretty short order if the mainspring is too light or not. Not much you can do about the price of extra mags but you’ll get your use out of them if you have them. It’s amazing how quickly you can throw .50 cents downrange again and again!
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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 09:32:03 PM »
As Walt stated, the "Upper" fit isn't so critical as you would think
The KADET, like the Marvel Unit One (for the 1911) can be as accurate as nicely set-up S&W Model 41
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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 10:03:18 PM »
I noticed my version is the only one I have seen with a full slide rail on both sides.  All the other versions I see online have a short rail section for the shorter dust cover models.

I wonder if they updated them or something

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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 09:29:02 AM »
  Apparently this is exactly the case and has recently been a topic here. Looks like it will fit the lines of the SP-01 better and just lacks the reduced frontal profile of the the standard 75 models. I’m not sure if these will become two distinct but functionally interchangeable model numbers or if the new profile will supercede the old one. For the SP01 it just means a longer static rail engagement with no difference to the moving part of the slide.
  Let us know how it runs for you. A lot of conversions are known to be fussy about ammo but the Kadet has a reputation for tolerating a broad range. Fed Champion has been the only so far that I can say gives me fits. Other Fed types have been just fine as well as a variety of other budget priced ammo. I cannot understate the pure fun-factor of the Kadet.   Plus the fact that it doesn’t feel like a B.B. gun when you point it downrange.
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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2019, 08:15:36 PM »
Well bad news.  Took it to the range today.  My new to me cgw shadow one performed flawlessly my fav pistol for sure.

Kadet kit not so well 7 out of 10 mini mags didnt fire on first try.  Had to cock and re fire for it to go off.  Went through 40 rounds and stopped. The mags were also hard to load on 10th round even with the mag loader.

Ideas?  My sp01 has a production legal full cgw upgrade kit and factory shadow 1 upper.


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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 09:26:24 PM »
  The 10th round in the mags can be a real bear sometimes. Using the lula loader I sometimes have to change a little how I work it as opposed to simply pressing down.
  I rather assume that by having the CGW kit it probably means a lighter hammer spring to improve the DA pull. The factory weight spring is generally regarded as necessary for reliable ignition though will find plenty of anecdotal reports to the contrary. Try the full strength hammer spring and see if that helps.
  I’m sure that others can comment more specifically about other spring weights that may be ok if you want to try to achieve a compromise that is under factory.
  Or you’ll just have to have another CZ to run it on so that you can leave the SP-01 with it’s enhancements. It’s a tough addiction to manage sometimes.
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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2019, 10:18:33 PM »
My sp01 has a production legal full cgw upgrade kit and factory shadow 1 upper.


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   Gonna need a heavier hammer spring. I’m sorry, I can’t remember the lightest you can go. I think 15lb, but not sure.
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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2019, 12:46:12 AM »
My sp01 has a production legal full cgw upgrade kit and factory shadow 1 upper.


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   Gonna need a heavier hammer spring. I’m sorry, I can’t remember the lightest you can go. I think 15lb, but not sure.
If I change the hammer spring will that affect the way it performs now with the super light trigger pull?

Blah I was really hoping I wouldn't have to change anything with this setup.  I do have another sp01 but I was going to sell it.

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Re: Having the hardest time fitting the kadet kit
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2019, 07:12:50 AM »
My sp01 has a production legal full cgw upgrade kit and factory shadow 1 upper.


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   Gonna need a heavier hammer spring. I’m sorry, I can’t remember the lightest you can go. I think 15lb, but not sure.
15 lb may work. 17 lb is a sure thing.
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