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Offline dsierra

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Advice Welcomed
« on: January 16, 2019, 02:19:52 PM »
Picked up this NIB 85 Combat a couple of months ago on a whim.  This is s 2017 manufacture and is a really beautiful gun.  I put the grips on it as I was going to shoot it.  Now, really don?t know what to do with it.  Originally thought I would safe queen it and leave it (along with my entire collection) to my granddaughter.

Here?s my dilemma:  1.  Should I safe queen it, hoping that it will increase in value?  2.  Shoot it which would necessitate a RRK at a minimum?  3.  Sell it?

I am new to CZ but have also recently bought a 75 Compact and a RAMI BD.

Thanks in advance.


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Offline bang bang

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Re: Advice Welcomed
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2019, 05:11:19 PM »
welcome,

heres a thought.

how about taking it out and putting to its intended use.  Shoot it and have some fun.  Then decide what you want to do with it.

Now, really don?t know what to do with it.  Originally thought I would safe queen it and leave it (along with my entire collection) to my granddaughter.

did you ask your granddaughter what she thought about guns?   Would she care if they were there or not?  would she use them  or just flip them?

If she's too young to shoot, then its not like the gun will expire in 1 year or rot.   As long as you give it some minimal maintenance, it should last until she is able to shoot.  But just be prepared for her to not care for guns when that times comes.   Also, the gun isnt like the size of a house where you need to find a place to put it, it only takes up a small amount of real estate in a safe.

I was going to save some/all of my toys for my nephews, but they dont care for guns at this time. So im selling off most of my collection.  I will keep some (for me and my enjoyment) but as far whats for them, i may will some of my collection to them, but not everything.

Here?s my dilemma:  1.  Should I safe queen it, hoping that it will increase in value? 

see above comment.

as far a value goes, in my opinion, guns go up in value.  Are there better investments, yes.  And as with any investment, you are gambling.  No way to sugar coat it, so as with any investment, realize that the price can drop for whatever reason or they can be taking away from you, for whatever reason without any compensation, for whatever reason.


  2.  Shoot it which would necessitate a RRK at a minimum?

Guns have been test fired at the factory so i dont know of any mfg that doesn't.  So imo, i would not say its "not fired" since it has in the strict sense of the word.  Also, there is no way to prove how many shots its been fired.   


3.  Sell it?

again, i would take it out and test fly it and see what you think.  You may end up liking it.  You can ALWAYS sell it anytime you want.


I am new to CZ but have also recently bought a 75 Compact and a RAMI BD.

Everyone starts at 0.  so, what you have now and what you want in the future may vary. 

also, buying a gun for someone is to me like buying a clothes for someone.  Its not going to happen.  That to me is so personal and everyone has their own idea of whats they want - to wear or to shoot.  Also, im not a clothes horse so i would be the last person to know.  Even when it comes to guns, i know that some people would just take it and flip it into cash or whatever they may want.  So in the end, i would rather give $$ and cut out the BS and let them buy what they want.




Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Advice Welcomed
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2019, 09:10:46 PM »
The guns I will inherit(hopefully) some day are special to me because they were used and loved by my father and grandfather. I would shoot it, and if you like it, keep it and improve it as needed. Teach her to shoot with it some day and explain to her why it's special and worth keeping. If you can enjoy it together it will mean more to her.

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2019, 11:32:28 PM »
I say shoot it and enjoy it.  There are plenty of 85c in circulation so you're not going to get a return on investment of keeping it pristine.  The difference between a 75 and 85 is minimal, unless everyone suddenly goes left-handed, it isn't limited edition polished stainless P01s.

Offline M1A4ME

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2019, 07:28:05 AM »
I believe, if you shoot it, if you take it and your grand daughter to the range and teach her to shoot it, it will mean much more to her when you finally give it to her.

There are two old .22's in my family that belong to me now.  One is my grandpa's Western Field single shot bolt action.  One is my dad's Savage M29 pump.

As a kid (and even teen ager) we were never allowed to even handle grandpa's rifle.  I don't recall every shooting that rifle.  I'd see it on the wall, but it was a NO TOUCH gun.  Why?  Because dry firing it would/could break the firing pin in the bolt.  It had happened a couple times in the past and they (dad/grandpa) didn't want it to happen again.  So, us kids weren't allowed to shoot it, take it off the wall, hunt with it.

I have not a single memory of shooting it, seeing one of them shoot it, hunting with it, etc.  It really doesn't mean too much to me.

On the other hand, dad let us shoot his Savage when we were little kids.  I can remember him setting hickory nuts and empty shotgun shells (before he started reloading) on logs in the woods and us taking turns (some times with him helping us hold it up -we were that small/young) and shooting that pump .22.  I remember going hunting with him when I was 4 and 5 years old and him killing squirrels with it (I got to carry the bag of squirrels).  I have a lot of good memories of that rifle, my dad, my mom (mom didn't go all the time, but she went with us some  times) and me in the woods with the dog chasing/treeing/killing squirrels.  Now that rifle has a lot of good memories and meaning for me.  I will give it to my youngest son for his kids (if he and his girlfriend get married and have kids).

So, give your grand daughter memories and reasons to want to keep and shoot that CZ85.

I have a Pre B CZ85.  I like it a lot.  I like it so well I bought a CZ75 Compact and converted it to a Compact CZ85 and I carried it for a couple years.  i like the ambidextrous controls.  I'm right handed, I still like the option, if I need to, of using my left hand and having controls on the other side of the pistol.
I stopped carrying the SIG 556R.  SIG changed models and couple/three times and stopped supporting it with parts.  So, I stopped supporting SIG.  Back to the tried/true AR15 Carbine.

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2019, 11:30:31 PM »
It sounds like the perfect complement to your midsized and smaller CZ.  When I found a new "old stock" 85B after announced obsolete, I went all in with CGW mods including milled optic (after first sending 500 rounds down range)..  So sweet to have a full size all steel shooter that is ambidextrous to boot!

Shoot, shoot shoot!

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Re: Advice Welcomed
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2019, 01:09:50 PM »
OK...thanks to all for the responses.  I'm gonna shoot it.
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Re: Advice Welcomed
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 05:14:42 PM »
OK...thanks to all for the responses.  I'm gonna shoot it.


Guns, to me, are like cars & motorbikes. Made to be used. The only safe queen I have is a very nice circa 1964ish S&W Model 39 and that is due to the history of their loooong extractors breaking. She will most likely make way for a shooter soon.

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Re: Advice Welcomed
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2019, 05:22:45 PM »
Good  decision to shoot it.

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2019, 09:19:09 PM »
Good  decision to shoot it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2019, 05:20:10 PM »
OK...finally got to the range today and turned the NIB 85 Combat into a used firearm and OMG, now I understand what the fuss about CZs is all about.  My CZ 75 Compact failed to impress but the 85 is a fabulous  gun with a great trigger and accurate as hell.  I couldn?t believe how I was banging the center of the target.  Only had 5 magazines for it but believe me I will be buying a bunch more real soon. 

The gun is heavier than my Hi Powers but after shooting it, my first impression is that it is more accurate and that?s no knock on the Hi Power.

Finished up shooting the Hi Power and the RAMI.  Gotta get sights for the RAMI.

All in all, a very good day.  Can?t wait to shoot the 85 again. 


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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2019, 08:41:54 PM »
Shhhhh.  Lets not tell him about CGW's 10x bushing, lest the OP discover that the compact can be a shooter too!

Not saying that your compact absolutely needs it, but I was underwhelmed with my PCRs accuracy until I made that change.  Combined with the 3 piece spring kit, it has become one my favorites for the range!

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2019, 09:04:22 PM »
Shhhhh.  Lets not tell him about CGW's 10x bushing, lest the OP discover that the compact can be a shooter too!

Not saying that your compact absolutely needs it, but I was underwhelmed with my PCRs accuracy until I made that change.  Combined with the 3 piece spring kit, it has become one my favorites for the range!
Interesting info about the compact.  I like the size of the gun but the sights really suck.  So, sights along with selected mods to get it up to snuff. 
Maybe, just sell it and put money on a Scorpion Evo 3 S2. 

I will take your suggestions under advice as I want to like the Compact.  The RAMI needs a sight upgrade also.


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CZ 75 Compact
CZ RAMI BD
BROWING HI POWER
FN HI POWER
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BABY BROWNING
Sig P230SL
Sig P230 .32
Sig 232 Tu Tone
Polish P-64 (9x18)
S&W Model 15
Seecamps (.25 & .32)

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2019, 05:13:09 PM »
Does that bushing help that much. My 85 is or was more accurate than me. Going to the range with it every other weekend has made it something that brings a lot of attention to my lane as it is. That bushing is the only cajun part left in the gun that is missing. If it can improve it further I'm sold.

On a side note the next time I go and hear someone talking up a block again I'm going to flip them. It happens every time and I don't see anything on paper that would translate that kind of talk ever. I don't think polished plastic and metal mix will ever get the same feel as a high polished 85 with a 1.5lb cajun pull.

Glad to hear your happy with the new found love of a good cz

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2019, 05:29:20 PM »
Interesting comments on the Compact. I have one and also a 85 Combat. Love the 85, can't wait to sell/trade bait the Compact.