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Offline fpjeepy

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.224 Valkyrie
« on: January 23, 2019, 11:34:02 PM »
Will CZ release a 527 in this caliber?

How has anyone done a custom with a 224 barrel? Or 6mm AR, 6mm Hagar, 24 Nosler?

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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2019, 01:17:11 AM »
I would say it's highly unlikely, however, you could contact CZ Custom in Mesa, as they sometimes do some interesting things.
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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 03:42:23 PM »
Why do you say unlikely?

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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 09:49:22 PM »
I can't comment on the Valkyrie but here is some food for thought. Winchester is bringing out a new cartridge the 350 Legend. It's basically a 223/5.56 opened to 35 caliber. A straight sided cartridge on the AR platform (for the hunting areas that have a straight sided cartridge requirement in the regulations?) hunting round. Six loadings 145-150-160-(2ea) 180 and a 265 grain sub sonic. Think in terms of a 150 grain bullet at 2325 fps (Win data) or 200 grain at around 1975 fps (this load is taken from the wildcat). Now imagine the CZ 527 carbine with a 223/5.56 magazine and bolt face but with a 35 caliber hole in the barrel. Might be fun.

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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2019, 01:52:14 AM »
I say unlikely because the caliber, while having a following, is not a real popular mainstream one where people are clamoring for rifles chambered in it daily.  It took quite a while after the Grendel round came out for CZ to chamber anything in it, and 300 Blackout, which has been out for years, barely makes an appearance.
Now it might be chambered in the Valk in the future, if things change and enough people contact CZ and ask for it, but right now I don't think CZ upper management is going to believe the juice is worth the squeeze.

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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 08:28:46 PM »
I can't comment on the Valkyrie but here is some food for thought. Winchester is bringing out a new cartridge the 350 Legend. It's basically a 223/5.56 opened to 35 caliber. A straight sided cartridge on the AR platform (for the hunting areas that have a straight sided cartridge requirement in the regulations?) hunting round. Six loadings 145-150-160-(2ea) 180 and a 265 grain sub sonic. Think in terms of a 150 grain bullet at 2325 fps (Win data) or 200 grain at around 1975 fps (this load is taken from the wildcat). Now imagine the CZ 527 carbine with a 223/5.56 magazine and bolt face but with a 35 caliber hole in the barrel. Might be fun.

35 caliber sounds cool, although not much over the 300 BLK. I think a 35 based on the 243 WSSM would have been more powerful, but that would have lost them the market of the straight wall only hunting states.  But still cool now that there are cartridges 17 - 50 for the AR COL, which all would work in a 527

Personally, I'm more interested in the 22cal and 6mm

I say unlikely because the caliber, while having a following, is not a real popular mainstream one where people are clamoring for rifles chambered in it daily.  It took quite a while after the Grendel round came out for CZ to chamber anything in it, and 300 Blackout, which has been out for years, barely makes an appearance.
Now it might be chambered in the Valk in the future if things change and enough people contact CZ and ask for it, but right now I don't think CZ upper management is going to believe the juice is worth the squeeze.

Makes sense. Just seems like it would maximize the action for long range, and second as the ultimate starter deer rifle. Although a one of the 6mms (AR, Turbo, Dasher, PDK, Hagar, Nosler, LBC, etc) might beat it out if someone ever got behind one of those.




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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 10:22:12 PM »
The 224 Valkyrie (great cartridge name by the way) should fit the 7.62X39mm/6.5 Grendel format pretty well. It would need a faster twist barrel than the current 1:9. Other wise your limited to 69ish grain bullets. The 350 Legend should fit the 5.56/223 Rem action-magazine combo but would also need a barrel adapted for use. This means a new barrel forming mandrel for either at the minimum for CZ to even consider production. As armoredman stated CZ generally isn't in any rush about these things. Doesn't hurt to dream any. I don't think your going to fit any cartridge based on the Ultra Mag family on a 527 bolt face no matter what the length. Back when they were called para military guns in stead of assault weapons and the military was up grading to the 62 grain load to increase helmet penetration at 500 yards you were lucky if your weapon would regularly hit a base ball at a 100 yards. It always amazes me how far the AR15/M16 platform has come since.

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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 11:50:51 AM »
Nosler is supposed to start selling loaded ammunition for their 24 Nosler this year. I think that would have an edge over the Valkyrie, because of the 6mm restriction of deer hunting in a lot of states. It's nice that the 24 Nosler uses the .223 bolt face. I'm thinking about buying an older 527 and doing a rebarrel. I don't need it, but I do want it.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/review-the-24-nosler/357574

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Re: .224 Valkyrie
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2019, 02:12:01 PM »
I can't comment on the Valkyrie but here is some food for thought. Winchester is bringing out a new cartridge the 350 Legend. It's basically a 223/5.56 opened to 35 caliber. A straight sided cartridge on the AR platform (for the hunting areas that have a straight sided cartridge requirement in the regulations?) hunting round. Six loadings 145-150-160-(2ea) 180 and a 265 grain sub sonic. Think in terms of a 150 grain bullet at 2325 fps (Win data) or 200 grain at around 1975 fps (this load is taken from the wildcat). Now imagine the CZ 527 carbine with a 223/5.56 magazine and bolt face but with a 35 caliber hole in the barrel. Might be fun.


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