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Offline Brenfan

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2019, 05:14:12 PM »
Anyone have a good idea on the barrel life?
She is 11" 1:7 twist and of course. 223

Offline cops312

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2019, 09:43:38 PM »
A good CHF Barrel should be good for 20K rounds.

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2019, 11:50:50 PM »
Awesome. That's fantastic.  Thank you.

Offline Aries144

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2019, 01:12:24 AM »
If the barrel can't easily be replaced, I'd be careful what ammo you use. Using an exclusive diet of Wolf/Barnaul Russian .223 took my 2 MOA 5.56 AK barrel to 7 MOA in around 7000 rounds. It seemed to happen suddenly somewhere around the 7000 round mark.

There's an old US Army study from the 60s or so I've read that specifically tested 7.62 barrel life with 4 different configurations involving 1. copper vs steel bullet jackets and 2. low flame temp ball powder vs higher flame temp stick powder. The longest lasting combination was the use of copper jacketed bullets and the cooler burning ball propellant. Steel jacketed bullets failed due to accuracy loss or keyholing rounds, while the copper jacketed failed due to passing under the test's velocity loss threshold- which to me likely means it would still have useful accuracy. The hotter burning stick powder killed the barrel faster no matter what jacket material was used, however.

Andrew Tuohy did a test for Lucky Gunner  (https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/)  using American made vs Russian made ammo with several different barrels, which seemed to support the previous army study's results regarding bullet jacket material, but can only hint at what contribution the Russian powder may have given to shortened barrel life.

I now only shoot loads using copper jacketed bullets and ball powder in anything that has a rare, expensive, or otherwise hard to replace barrel.

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2019, 04:12:13 AM »
I now only shoot loads using copper jacketed bullets and ball powder in anything that has a rare, expensive, or otherwise hard to replace barrel.

Thank you for that information!

It has also been reported that the older Russian style ammo is more acidic requiring a water wash of the barrel soon after shooting.
In addition, steel cased ammo has been implicated in premature ejector failures as the cases are harder than brass.

Like you that's why I only shoot the best ammo and ignore the "on sale" or gun show reloads.
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Offline Brenfan

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2019, 07:28:03 AM »
Thanx fellas. Good info.
What I've been using and, what I plan to use is Winny white box 55gr and Federal 55gr as well as American Eagle 55gr also, American Eagle/Lake City 62gr Green Tip. Does that sound ok?

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2019, 08:57:56 AM »
Just a note: I never had an issue with rust or anything like that after shooting Russian ammo. Nothing that would make me think there was anything acidic. I lived in a very humid climate at the time as well and none of it ever bothered the rifle with signs of corrosion.

Brenfan, all of those loads should be ok. Lighter commercial loads extend barrel life too.

Don't worry too much. By the time you've shot a barrel out with those light US commercial loads, you'll probably be in a position to pay someone to custom make you a new barrel or three.  ;)

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2019, 10:24:10 AM »
Lol, cool.
Thanx Aries

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2019, 10:38:38 PM »
Please, ANYONE that has or even has had a Bren 805 PS1 or PS2, please feel free to post up some pics!
It would awesome to have to have some more pics.
Thanx fellas!

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2019, 10:41:15 PM »
Just a note: I never had an issue with rust or anything like that after shooting Russian ammo. Nothing that would make me think there was anything acidic. I lived in a very humid climate at the time as well and none of it ever bothered the rifle with signs of corrosion.

Brenfan, all of those loads should be ok. Lighter commercial loads extend barrel life too.

Don't worry too much. By the time you've shot a barrel out with those light US commercial loads, you'll probably be in a position to pay someone to custom make you a new barrel or three.  ;)

Just 1 question, and please excuse my ignorance.
Is what I'm shooting/what I mentioned, is that light commercial loads?

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2019, 01:03:23 PM »
Anyone running a suppressor? If so, how do you like it?
Any tips or pointers or suggestions appreciated!
I'm seriously considering one.

Offline Brenfan

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2019, 01:24:11 PM »
So, just bought a new Vortex Prism from a member from another forum. $150 shipped.
It's just amazing what you can get from Vortex, for the money, especially when you consider the warranty Vortex has.
This Prism scope is awesome....I'll post some pics later. It just came in this a.m.

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2019, 12:52:24 AM »
Nice - I need to get another red dot sometime soon, too.

Offline Brenfan

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2019, 09:56:44 AM »
Nice - I need to get another red dot sometime soon, too.

Thank you sir.
I really love both, the red dot and the prism.
Just need to figure where to put each.
Between my Bren and M1A Scout.

Offline Brenfan

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Re: Couldn't be more happy. New 805 PS1
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2019, 11:35:06 AM »
It's been nothing but rain and mud for the last I dont know how long.....
I want to test out the prism scope on this Bren. Maybe I can do that this week.