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Offline crawleigh0911

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P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« on: February 02, 2019, 12:39:18 AM »
Does anyone have any suggestion on aftermarket parts or upgraded parts for the P07? any information would be appreciated.

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 01:42:24 AM »
Check in the stickies ^ for tuning, up grading.

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 07:24:53 AM »
Only things I've replaced on my P07/P09 pistols is:
P07 .40 S&W - sights, added an RMR, Talon Grips, CGW reduced power trigger return spring, CGW reduced power firing pin block spring, CGW firing pin retaining pin and captured recoil spring/guide rod assembly (got tired of fighting that spring in/out of the slide).

P09 .40 S&W - Talon grips, a light on the rail, the same CGW parts as put in the P07, installed the older DUTY style curved trigger as the stock trigger was slowly eating my trigger finger

P09 9MM - sights, added an RMR, a light on the rail, the same parts as the put in the P07.

The springs and firing pin retaining pin replacements were not due to problems I had with the factory parts but due to reports of problems other people had.  I just figured I'd remove the possible problem parts before I had issues with them.

You'll find that a lot of folks want to replace more parts but I was happy with the trigger pulls I had from the factory.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2019, 01:44:19 PM »
If you want to add a comp Parker mountain machine is working on one for the p07/p09 that does not have set screws to attach it, uses shims instead. I'd wait for that one if you want to get a comp but a lot of people are happy with the primary machine one

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 09:18:10 AM »
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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2019, 09:20:58 AM »
While you have the gun apart you do this...
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=101164.0#new
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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2019, 09:05:16 PM »
I installed the extended firing pin with the reduced power hammer spring, a lighter firing pin block plunger spring, the improved firing pin retainer pin, and did all the requisite polishing of the internals that you can find in the stickies. 

These simple and relatively inexpensive mods have given me a really nice trigger.  If you don't want to spend a ton on it, this would be a good place to start in my opinion. 

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 08:45:53 AM »
Concerning mods for the P-O7 P-O9 this was given to me by "s0nspark".
He didn't mind me passing this along before so here it is :
Ok - here is the rundown... just as an FYI, this is generally geared around the P-07/P09 series but the general idea applies to almost every CZ - the specific part options may just differ :)

As discussed in the thread, the two weak points, historically, with CZs has been the trigger return spring, the firing pin retaining pin and the slide stop. Generally, if something has broken on a stock gun it is one of those parts (and, of course, the slide stop usually only fails after suffering a ton of rounds through the gun...)

I would replace the retaining pin and the trigger return spring with the ones from Cajun Gun Works at a minimum. It has been suggested that CZ went through a period where the TRS materials they sourced were somehow out of spec and that is what caused the unexpected breakages. Many folks don't bother replacing the stock part  - they just make sure they keep a spare or 2 handy. I prefer to play it safer... the CGW parts are better parts to begin with. The slide stop is usually only a concern as your round count rises but, again, I choose to keep a spare on hand to minimize down time if one breaks.

As for the other upgrades, for the P-07/P-09 series they improve either the double action or single action trigger press.

Out of the box I find the DA press rather heavy on most CZs and sometimes it is not very smooth - the Omega triggers do seem better in this regard, but the issues are still there. To address them you would do the following things:

1) Replace the stock 20# hammer spring (HS) with an 18# (defensive use) or a 15# (competition/range use) CGW spring- this lowers the DA pull weight. Actually, using the CGW TRS reduces the DA weight by about 1/2# too. You would opt for the 15# HS only for competition use, really, because it limits your ammo choices and generally is better suited to those who reload and can choose softer primers.

2) Replacing the HS requires you to, at least, replace the FP spring as well because a lighter hammer spring reduces the amount of force the hammer strikes the FP with and, if you pair that with the stock FP spring, you run the risk of light strikes.

3) I also replace the stock FP with the CGW extended FP in my defensive guns, just to make sure the gun goes bang when it should. This is not strictly necessary, though, for range use.

4) Another small upgrade that helps to smooth out the DA press is the firing pin block plunger spring - this is a reduced power spring that does not affect function but reduces the feel of disabling the block during the trigger press.

5) The final component of the DA upgrade parts is the roller - the stock roller sometimes results in a less than smooth trigger press and timing issues. The CGW part addresses all of this.

The SA out of the box is not as crisp as it could be and there is a bit of creep there usually. The reset is also not as short as it could be. To address that you would do the following:

1) Replace the hammer. The CGW hammer (or the CZ Custom hammer) changes the geometry and allows for a super crisp break with no creep and very little, if any, overtravel.

2) Replace the trigger. CGW makes an trigger with an adjustable overtravel screw - this will allow you to totally eliminate any overtravel.

3) install the CGW short reset kit. This actually includes the FP and FP spring as well as a better quality lifter and disconnector. The lifter and disconnector and tuned to reduce the reset point by 40-50%.

4) if you find that the SA trigger is lighter than yu would like after these upgrades you can swap in a heavier sear spring - there are basically 2 heavier options, depending on how much heavier you want to go.

Upgrades for other CZs follow similar a path - there are a few more options available there, though - more hammer spring weights, etc... There is also a reach reduction kit available for those guns that can help if you find the DA trigger position to be too far out there. Another option is CZ Custom's flat trigger - it has a cool shape and, again, reduces the trigger reach. Sadly my fingers are too long to even consider that.

I know this is a lot to take in... don't let it overwhelm you :) A lot of it comes down to how you intend to use the gun. Just know you have options to tune it as much as you may like.

Also using the, joemustang99 videos on YouTube for disassembly reassembly of the PO 7,  po9 those are invaluable.

« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 08:50:50 AM by DOC 1500 »
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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 09:40:31 AM »
The trigger quality in these guns can vary astronomically.  I found 2 P guns that in stock form would likely satisfy all requirements.  Others needed a total revamp.  It all depends on the gun and how much you shoot also. 

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 10:50:29 AM »
If you want to add a comp Parker mountain machine is working on one for the p07/p09 that does not have set screws to attach it, uses shims instead. I'd wait for that one if you want to get a comp but a lot of people are happy with the primary machine one

A lot of people aren't happy with their mounting system and having issues with it. ;)

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 11:14:13 AM »
If this is for a .40 P07, be careful with either a mainspring or recoil spring reduction.  The recoil spring in the .40 P07 is possibly undersprung from the factory if anything, but is generally fine left as is.  The mainspring plays a bigger role in taming slide velocity in a .40 than it does in the 9mm, so lightening that spring can induce other issues.  I?ve gone back to stock mainsprings in all of my .40 P07s because with even a slightly lighter mainspring, I sometimes get feed issues. 

Also, with the .40s, I like to run extra power mag springs.  The guns just seem to run better with them in place.

None of this really applies to the 9mm P07.  My 9mm P07 has the full CGW Pro kit and has been fine with it.

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Re: P07 upgrade/accessory suggestions
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2019, 10:02:15 AM »
Upgrades I've made to my P-07 so far:

1) Polished the internals (per joemustang99's vids)
2) Replaced the stock hammer spring with a #15 (CGW)
3) Reduced power firing pin spring (CGW)
4) Reduced trigger spring (CGW)
5) De-tensioned the trigger bar return spring
6) Stainless guide rod and #15 recoil spring (CGW)
7) Night Fision front sight
8) Talon grips

All in all, $100 and a few hours of my time and this pistol is much improved. It's now an 8-1/2lb DA and 3lb SA with a way smoother action. I liked the P-07 out of the box, but it's really a joy to shoot after doing the above. I don't plan on doing much else to it at this point.